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Old 10-21-2006, 01:35 PM   #19 (permalink)
Gilda
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And an equally silly response.

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Originally Posted by _God_
Notwithstanding that you had to go back as much as four hundred years in an attempt to validate your opinion, rolling back all of the laws passed in the intervening years would, among other things, end women's suffrage, end environmental controls, and reinstitute slavery, among other things.
Did I propose rolling back any laws? No, I'm pretty sure I didn't.

I pointed out that we're nearly all descended from immigrants, and a great many of those didn't ask permission or follow the laws of the existing governments when they settled here.

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I don't share your opinion, since I believe the US is vastly different now. I am also unable to think of any country that imposes no restrictions on immigration. Can you?
No, you don't share the opinion that you attributed to me that I did not propose and do not hold. That's a straw man, by the way.

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Unless I misunderstand, your two points are:

1. The US government should not be allowed to enforce current laws which we, the citizens, have the power to change if we don't like them, and

2. People from other countries are allowed to break our laws at will.
No, those were not my points.

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I see an absence of logic, and a surfeit of emotion. In that aspect, it resembles just about every argument presented in favor of continued illegal immigration, except for the ones that are blatantly false.
I see responses to opinions and arguements I did not make.

I proposed a reasonable scenario. I'm driving through Arizona. My car breaks down, and my wife sends me $2000 for repairs. What's to keep Arizona from just taking the money before it gets to me? How do I know this transfer doesn't fit the profile?

If Arizona can legally take people's money without having to prove that it was sent by undocumented aliens, recieved by undocumented aliens, or sent for illegal purposes, which seems to me to be an obvious warrantless siezure, what would prevent the state where I live from siezing money I send to my mom, who is an immigrant, or my grandparents? Hey, I might be sending it to smugglers or drug dealers or people who are going to use it for illegal purposes.

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