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Originally Posted by NCB
Very well stated and I respect your honesty. However, I will have to take issue with you in regards to how moderate Muslims recognize the problem. If they do indeed recognize it, then they need to take the next step and come out en masse to denounce every act of violence done in the name of Islam. Anything short of that will be as if they have done nothing at all. Sorry, but I speak for a lot of Americans who feel enough time has been given for moderate Muslims to stpe up to the plate and stomp the extremism out of their own religion.
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lot of Muslims have spoken up, and I've talked about this earlier in the thread. Take a look at those posts. I agree that we need to do more. But I think your characterization, that this task is
entirely the responsibility of the Muslim community itself, is unfair. How easy do you think it is to convince people with a message of moderation and peace when the dominant conservative discourse is one that condemns and blames the Islamic faith itself at every turn, and while, as far as most Muslims can see, the US has still provided no actual, plausible justification for the war it began 3 years ago?
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
I think the first thing removed in a liberal is his sense of humor.
If you were really interested in, contributing to the discussion in any meaningful way, you would have pmed me your message but instead you posted it here for all to read.
P.S. Read the Koran, you will find it very interesting I'm sure and its a pretty easy read.
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UsTwo, your cherry-picking of quotes from the Qur'an is not a useful way to try to understand Islam, unless your only purpose is to find ways to condemn it and reinforce your existing view. Let me demonstrate.
Lend me a little under 6 minutes and watch this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C10sSC2kB3Q
It is from Richard Dawkins' documentary on faith; Dawkins is an outspoken atheist and makes a pretty vitriolic attack on Christianity based on scripture. Can you please explain to me the difference between his analysis of the Bible, and your understanding of the Qur'an?