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Old 10-08-2006, 04:52 PM   #27 (permalink)
Ustwo
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Originally Posted by ratbastid
I don't get this. You're a libertarian, or you claim to be. Yet you support Bush while he evicerates our freedoms. Your international communications can be evesdropped on with the slightest suspicion now, and it's apparently legal. The guy suspended habeas corpus, and you're still on his side. Doesn't all this raise your libertarian hackles?

If not, I urge you to reconsider the above sentence.
No because unlike you I don't see any evicerated freedom, I see over reacting by the left looking for something to over react to so they can claim Bush evicerated freedom.

I am not in the least bit worried about my freedoms. Unlike the October suprise by CBS in 2004, the democrats found one that would stick because there was truth to it and should get some good gains in November (I'd like to scoff at the fact they once again avoid pushing their issues, but thats another matter, they found a boy-emailer who may not have touched anyone but thats enough to draw people away from issues and go into a punishing mode) and power will shift, we will see power shift again in 2008.

There hasn't been a war where we didn't lose some freedoms, and being this is an unconventional war, we have lost less than usual. Technologies change, risks change, you can't expect us to lay there spread eagle because someone is worried the government may get a list of the porn sites they visited.

We currently do not have a libertarian government, we are not set up as such, we do not have a populous willing embrace it, and most people don't even know what it is beyond legalizing drugs. As such I vote my closest kin which is in fact the Republican party, its not perfect, its not my ideal, but its better in the long run from my point of view then the socialists. There is a reason almost all the Libertarians fall into the Republican fold (and whenever I find a left winger who claims to be one, they have been utterly clueless on what the Libertarians are).

Perhaps in another generation, perhaps not, people will be ready for a more libertarian view point, but there will be blood in the streets when the parasitic classes lose their meal ticket and suddenly have to work or starve.
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