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dlish · 10-07-2006, 03:24 PM

welcome to TFP intense1.

just to point out though, ive read and heard of atrocities in indonesia for the past few years, in the maluku islands, ambon etc. while i dont doubt your claims, i ask that you keep an open mind. a few years ago, i came across a propaganda video of atrocities of muslims in the maluku islands by christians. wasnt a very nice view. the video showed 'christians' killing a muslim man, then splitting his stomach open and actually eating his intestines. i dont know about you, but to me thats the furthest thing from chritianity if there is such a thing. the reason why they killed him from memory wasnt mentioned, but then again its a propagandist video.

as for the muslim mob in ambon that you mention, these guys are furthest from the fold of islam. it reminds me of the early days of the prophet muhammads message where the persecution of muslims was at its highest, where figures like sumaya umm yassir were persucuted and killed in similar fashion, where she became the first martyr in islam. islam doesnt condone these acts of violence whatsoever. these acts are moreso, a growth out of the political tension over the area than anything else.

on the issue of finding moderate imams or leaders, there are plenty. but like previous posters have mentioned, moderates dont make the news.

for the 'jesus camp' issue. i find it quite amusing that these guys can set something up like this and market it in this fashion, but a similar islamic one would cause a furore. here in australia there has been stories of muslims going hunting/camping out in the country or even paintball skirmish. news outlets obviously want to sell stories and focus on the muslim terrorist issue where 'extremists' go to jihad camp to train. news/current affairs programs usually show empty plastic bags of lebanese bread to prove their stories. its all a kafuffle to me, all content no taste.

10-07-2006, 03:24 PM	#40 (permalink)
dlish Currently sour but formerly Dlishs Super Moderator Location: Australia/UAE	welcome to TFP intense1. just to point out though, ive read and heard of atrocities in indonesia for the past few years, in the maluku islands, ambon etc. while i dont doubt your claims, i ask that you keep an open mind. a few years ago, i came across a propaganda video of atrocities of muslims in the maluku islands by christians. wasnt a very nice view. the video showed 'christians' killing a muslim man, then splitting his stomach open and actually eating his intestines. i dont know about you, but to me thats the furthest thing from chritianity if there is such a thing. the reason why they killed him from memory wasnt mentioned, but then again its a propagandist video. as for the muslim mob in ambon that you mention, these guys are furthest from the fold of islam. it reminds me of the early days of the prophet muhammads message where the persecution of muslims was at its highest, where figures like sumaya umm yassir were persucuted and killed in similar fashion, where she became the first martyr in islam. islam doesnt condone these acts of violence whatsoever. these acts are moreso, a growth out of the political tension over the area than anything else. on the issue of finding moderate imams or leaders, there are plenty. but like previous posters have mentioned, moderates dont make the news. for the 'jesus camp' issue. i find it quite amusing that these guys can set something up like this and market it in this fashion, but a similar islamic one would cause a furore. here in australia there has been stories of muslims going hunting/camping out in the country or even paintball skirmish. news outlets obviously want to sell stories and focus on the muslim terrorist issue where 'extremists' go to jihad camp to train. news/current affairs programs usually show empty plastic bags of lebanese bread to prove their stories. its all a kafuffle to me, all content no taste. __________________ An injustice anywhere, is an injustice everywhere I always sign my facebook comments with ()()===========(}. Does that make me gay? - Filthy