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Originally Posted by Infinite_Loser
It's a bit tiring to type the same thing over and over and over again, only to have you ignore it by repeating what's already been refuted.
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You have disputed my arguments, not refuted them.
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Wow. First you link to a site that says women should be subservient to men, and now to a paper that compares homosexuality to pedophilia. Is NARTH next? Misogyny International?
I'm curious about something. Why is it so important to you to prove that the Bible is and Christianity should be in opposition to homosexuality? Why do you argue so vehemently about an issue that doesn't affect you in any way (I'm assuming you are heterosexual)? You obviously feel very strongly regarding homosexuality, gay marriage, and gay adoption, but I can't see any reason why you, or anyone who isn't homosexual for that matter, would even care, let alone oppose these.
Where is the harm in saying, "I think homosexuality is a sin, so I won't engage in homosexual acts, and I'll join a church that feels the same. I'll allow others to decide the issue for themselves and their churches, and we can each tend to our own lives and homes and churches and spirituality."
My being a Christian homosexual affects nobody but me and my wife. My same-sex marriage affects nobody but me and my wife. My church's beliefs regarding homosexuality affect nobody but its members.
I argue so strongly not because I want you to adopt my belief system and start having sex with another man, start attending a gay church, or marry another man and adopt children. I'm not asking you to change your beliefs or act differently in regards to homosexuality. Indeed, I would find such a stance abhorrent.
I accept that you should be free to determne your beliefs regarding homosexuality and act based on those, and your church should be free to do the same. I don't want anybody to renounce their heterosexuality, don't want anybody to start viewing heterosexuality as a sin, don't want my church to prohibit heterosexual sex or heterosexual marriage. I don't want to limit the freedoms of others in any way except when they attempt to harm others.
I argue because the policies your promote harm me through limiting my freedoms based on your belief system without benefitting anyone, and because you promote your belief system as the one true one in regards to this issue. Before you try to turn this around and say that I am doing the same thing, let me make it very, very clear that I do not claim that my interpretation is the correct one for anybody but me, my family, and my church. I believe you have the right to do the same.
I want you to be free to act on your spiritual, moral, and ethical beliefs, and I would hope you would feel the same about my freedom to do that also. I don't want to force a pro-homosexual belief system on you or society. I don't want homosexuals to be given any preferences or special status. I only want to be free to live my life and to worship as a Christian as I see fit.
Gilda