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Originally Posted by churchhill supposedly
The fact that in Mohammedan law every woman must belong to some man as his absolute property, either as a child, a wife, or a concubine, must delay the final extinction of slavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power among men.
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This shows the man was ignorant in this regard. Slavery of women? not by a long shot.
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Originally Posted by adams?
Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex
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again, ignorance prevails. the claim that he 'degraded the condition of the female sex' is so ignorant that it ashamed me that you believe it in this day and age. Adams and Churchhill were of a different era, I wonder if either of them had ever even see a muslim not in a manuscript.
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and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind.
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again, patently false.
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Originally Posted by ustwo
The very interesting thing about both these quotes is that Israel did not exist yet. I'd like you all to think about it. Israel is the focus of this conflict apparently, yet, long before Israel was born out of the ashes of WWII, two of the greatest leaders of their time had the above thoughts on Islam.
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Israel was born out of the ashes of WWII? What do you mean by that? And the topic of Palestine HAS been used by many muslims leaders to try and give themselves a broad support. It is unfortunate that a noble cause has been confused in many minds by such acts.
UsTwo, I would like to know exactly what resonated with you in those quotes. You mentioned the technological superiority, and I agree with you, but think that the necessary factors for stopping the Muslims should be broadened to include such things as temporary unity under the banner of the pope, cultural differences...many many other reasons, but tech. is definitely an important factor