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Originally Posted by ubertuber
Ustwo and stevo, you only qualify your opinions (by saying things like "in its current form") when feel you have to. In fact, I'm not sure I'd need 2 hands to count the instances that you didn't paint with the broadest brush possible. Far more common are gloating comments along the lines of "this is a brutal primitive religion that only understands force".
The most reason you've provided so far that your views are not racist is that Islamism isn't a race. So you're culturist or religionist? I'm not sure that I see much redemption as long as you aren't willing to see any nuance or variation in a thing that is made up of hundreds of millions of people who each have their own practices, experiences, and priorities. Is that sort of perception not appropriate here? I think it is, particularly in terms of finding solutions or living in a world with people who are of differing values. I'm still waiting for a defense of your generalization of Islam as a monolithic feature, or as the single most defining feature of its practicioners. If that isn't an "ism" I don't know what is.
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This is a gross generalization Uber. A cultural trend does not mean everyone in a culture follows it, approves of it, or supports it. I don't know what percentage of the Islamic world would qualify as an 'Islamofacist' but they have come to represent modern Islam, like it or not.
Stevo and I never even suggested that they are ALL like that, or that even every Islamic population is like that, but currently the ones that are, and there are millions of them, and they control several governments, are a threat to the progress as we see it and the Western World as a whole.
I'm giong to Goodwin this hoping you get the point. Not every german was a nazi, not every german supported them, some even fought them, but at the end of the day we still had to fight the germans as they were a threat to freedom in Europe.
I figured that sort of thing should be self evident and am rather annoyed I need to explain it. Do you really think Stevo and I are that simplistic in vision?