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Old 10-05-2006, 04:05 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
If you view Islam in its current form as a threat to Western Civilization you are a racist and a fascist.
Ustwo and stevo, you only qualify your opinions (by saying things like "in its current form") when feel you have to. In fact, I'm not sure I'd need 2 hands to count the instances that you didn't paint with the broadest brush possible. Far more common are gloating comments along the lines of "this is a brutal primitive religion that only understands force".

The most reason you've provided so far that your views are not racist is that Islamism isn't a race. So you're culturist or religionist? I'm not sure that I see much redemption as long as you aren't willing to see any nuance or variation in a thing that is made up of hundreds of millions of people who each have their own practices, experiences, and priorities. Is that sort of perception not appropriate here? I think it is, particularly in terms of finding solutions or living in a world with people who are of differing values. I'm still waiting for a defense of your generalization of Islam as a monolithic feature, or as the single most defining feature of its practicioners. If that isn't an "ism" I don't know what is.

So whether or not your opening article is any good or of any truth, I don't see the relevance of your views to mine, let alone the real world in which we live.

By the way, this shocked the hell out of me:

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Originally Posted by roachboy
every fascist-style nationalism is motivated by fear of some persecuting Other.
I didn't know you had it in you, roachboy.

(I'm talking about the caps key)
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