Could the difference, this time with Foley, be the blatant lies to the media, coming from the house leadership?
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=2509889
<b>Page Program Has Seen Scandal Before</b>
Foley Not the First Congressman Accused of Indiscretion Related to the Page Program
By LIZ MARLANTES
Sept. 29, 2006 Sex scandals on Capitol Hill are nothing new. And if the allegations against Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., prove true, he would not even be the first member of Congress to pursue an inappropriate relationship with a page.
In 1983, two lawmakers were censured by the House of Representatives for having sexual relationships with teenage pages. Rep. Dan Crane, R-Ill., admitted to sexual relations with a 17-year-old female page, while Rep. Gerry Studds, D-Mass., admitted to sexual relations with a 17-year-old male page.
The ways each lawmaker handled the scandal and the consequences they faced afterward were very different. Crane apologized for his actions, saying, "I'm human" and "I only hope my wife and children will forgive me." He was subsequently voted out of office in 1984.
Studds, who was openly gay, said the relationship was consensual and charged that the investigation by the House Ethics Committee raised fundamental questions of privacy. He won re-election the following year in a more liberal district than Crane's and served in Congress until his retirement in 1996.
The scandals had repercussions for congressional pages as well. The Congressional Page Program which has been around for more than 150 years was overhauled and a board was created to monitor it. A dormitory for pages was created near the Capitol......
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<b>and magictoy.....read the HIllnews report in my last post here, and consider the following reports from the news.....because I'm not quite sure if you are "up to speed" about what you are posting about
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http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...aff_warne.html
GOP Staff Warned Pages About Foley in 2001
October 01, 2006 4:00 PM
......Pages report to either Republican or Democratic supervisors, <b>depending on the political party of the member of Congress who nominate them</b> for the page program.
<b>Several Democratic pages tell ABC News they received no such warnings</b> about Foley......
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,217899,00.html
House GOP Leaders Ask for Probe Into Alleged Foley Dorm Visit
Wednesday, October 04, 2006
......However, Rep. Deborah Pryce of Ohio, chairman of the House Republican Conference, sent a letter to Hass saying that U.S. Capitol Police officers stopped Foley from entering the page dorm "within the last several years."
Pryce also said on the same Monday <b>GOP, members-only conference call, lawmakers said that the Director of the Republican Pages "brought specific concerns about then-Congressman Foley's behavior</b> to the attention of the then-Clerk of the House."
Pryce's letter to Hass called the rumors "vague" but "serious allegations" that deserve the Clerk's "full attention and thorough investigation."......
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http://www.columbusdispatch.com/elec...p?story=217144
Foley scandal hits Ohio
With GOP on defensive, accusations from Democrats fly
By Jack Torry, James Nash and Catherine Candisky
The Columbus Dispatch
Wednesday, October 4, 2006
.....Rep. Deborah Pryce, of Upper Arlington, the No. 4 House Republican, said that "anyone who was aware of these instant messages needs to take responsibility. Anybody who had knowledge of that needs to step down."......
.........Pryce, who said she learned late last week of e-mails between Foley and former pages, said yesterday that House GOP leaders "deferred to the Louisiana parents and should not have done that. <h3>And they didn't include enough people, for instance, no Democrat."</h3>
Pryce yesterday asked the House clerk to investigate what she described as rumors that Foley, while intoxicated, had once tried to enter the page residence hall but was stopped by Capitol Police.
Pryce, in a letter Tuesday after GOP House members held a conference call the night before, also asked the clerk to look into claims that <b>the director of the page program took complaints about Foley's behavior to a former House clerk.</b> David Roth, Foley's attorney, would not comment last night....
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http://www.journal-news.net/news/art...articleID=4106
Capito decries lack of notification over Foley e-mails
CHARLESTON Rep. Shelley Moore Capito, one of three representatives who oversee U.S. Capitol pages, says she was caught off guard by reports about suggestive e-mails that a former Florida congressman allegedly sent to a 16-year-old former page.
Despite her lack of knowledge about the situation, her Democratic challenger, Mike Callaghan, has called for the resignation of each of the three Representatives on the Page Board, saying they were asleep at the wheel.
Capito said she wasnt told about the e-mails until Friday, even though several high-ranking House Republicans have known about them for months.
I felt that we should have been informed, said Capito, R-W.Va. Im absolutely disgusted by what Im hearing.......
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http://abclocal.go.com/wjrt/story?se...cal&id=4629789
Dale Kildee speaks on Foley case
Representative says he's outraged
WJRT ABC12 News
MID MICHIGAN (WJRT) - (10/04/06)--A Michigan congressman who is the only Democrat on the House Page Board is outraged over the way Republicans handled concerns last year about former Rep. Mark Foley and his e-mails to teenage pages.
Rep. Dale Kildee is upset that the board's leader, Illinois Republican Rep. John Shimkus, met with Foley last year without consulting with him.
Foley was ordered to end contact with the young boy.
Kildee says parents who send their children to Washington depend on the board to ensure they are safe, and that it appears Republicans put their interests before the pages'.
Kildee has served on the page board since 1985.
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http://www.forbes.com/business/energ...ap3066630.html
A senior House Republican said Wednesday that Rep. Mark Foley's inappropriate e-mails to a page - now at the center of an intensifying federal investigation - should have been thoroughly pursued at the time.
As conservatives debated whether House Speaker Dennis Hastert should resign over his handling of the complaint, the House majority whip, Roy Blunt, R-Mo., said he would have handled it differently <b>if he'd known about it.</b> He was the acting majority leader when the complaint was raised....
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<b>magictoy</b>....let us recap....you've repeated a talking point that has no support from any of the news reporting.....<b>"The thought that no one (including Democrats) suspected anything until 2005, or a month before the elections, stretches credulity beyond the breaking point."</b>
The two parties appoint separate house of rep. pages, the rules allow the majority party to appoint twice the number of pages than the minority party can appoint. I posted a report above that says that the pages have separate supervisors, according to the politcal party that appointed them, and that some pages said that no democrat supervisor of pages warned democrat appointed pages about Mark Foley.
Rep. Shimkus, a republican, was the only member or the three member house page board who was aware of the Foley emails or the complaint from the parent of a Louisiana page. He was informed by Rep. Alexander, a republican who appointed that page, and who fielded the complaint from the parent.
Shimkus did not tell fellow page board members, Capito, R-WV, or Kildee D-MI, about the complaint. House majority whip, republican Roy Blunt, who was acting majority leader after Tom Delay resigned from the position, and before Boehner was elected by house republicans to fill that position, said he did not know about Foley.
Shimkus, and the republican appointed former house clerk Trandahl, confronted Foley about the complaint. Rep. Alexander said that he brought the complain about Foley to Rep. Thomas M. Reynolds, chairman of the house NRCC....who had as his chief of staff, Fordham....who had been Foley's chief of staff for ten years.
Kirk Fordham resigned, and said that he had discussed Foley's preoccupation with male house pages, with Hastert's chief of staff, Scott Palmer, as long ago as three years......
What have you seen....from any news report....magictoy, that links any house democrat, with prior knowledge of Foley's activities with house pages?
Were you influenced to post about democrats, by the influence of the spin of Clarice Feldman, et al?