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Originally Posted by aceventura3
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THEN when you've got somebody telling the honest truth about how he messed himself up, you use THAT to score MORE general, broad, sweeping points on your personal political boogie-men. pan's business was successful--then his addiction killed it. It's like if I've got a clock that's running perfectly, keeping perfectly good time, and I accidentally smash it with a hammer, that's not because the clock was somehow faulty or that my maintenance and stewardship of the clock was insufficient. Something external to my management of the clock killed the clock--waving the hammer around was probably a mistake, and probably broke things aside from the clock, but that doesn't make me a bad clock haver. But you turn that into "Why can't liberals admit their clocks don't work? They won't admit that they fail to have working clocks!"
I'm actually very deeply offended by how you turned the story of pan's addiction into a broad brush to tar all those who disagree with you. You should be ashamed of yourself. That was a human being telling the truth about his life--it doesn't happen often in this world and I'll be damned if I'll sit by and let you shit on it.
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I apologize to Pan, you and anyone else I offended.
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I appreciate the defense and great analogy.
Ace, I accept your appology, as I stated the more I posted here the more therapeutic it became for me.
Seems we both learned something in this thread.
I learned how much crap I was carrying over all this and hadn't truly came to terms or resolved it. I think posting the issue in public and having been pushed to truly admit what I did to myself, my business and my employees helped me come to a closure, or at least the start of a closure and allow a healing process to begin.
You may have learned that Liberal business owners are good and their philosophies work as well as conservative.
Or perhaps, that when you want a certain answer, you will dig to find it, regardless of what is being said you'll only see what you want..... we all do that I am very guilty of it.
Or maybe you didn't learn anything but what you wanted to.
Either way, again, this thread for me proved to be the most therapeutic experience I have had in awhile.