couple things and i'm mainly only subscribing to this thread bc the issue in question disgusts me to the core of my being.
anyway: 1. torture does not work. period. It gets you LOADS of information, just not much useful info and you have to sort out the hundreds of lies. I would spill my guts, EVERYTHING i know, ever knew, ever will know...and i can pretty much guarantee that 80% of it will be ...questionably accurate. You deprive someone of sleep and they mess up little details such as names, places, and actions; ie, the very thing you're after.
2. Even Star Trek proved that torture does not work.
3. One of the absolute scariest parts of this for me: The inclusion of hearsay. Seriously, WTF!? someone under duress can finger someone else and there is another timewaster.
Face it, there are MANY other avenues we could pursue. as one senator said, tough on terror..light on brains.
Anyway, the thing that comes back to my mind everytime i try to wrap my head around the fact it got through the senate: Just how hard would republicans have bitched if clinton had even come CLOSE to this much unilateral power?
I'm just glad there are 2 yrs left. If the left fucks up the next election and the republicans win again...I have no idea what will happen to me but i can feel it's the big one...
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