Originally Posted by ratbastid

I've been away from the computer for 48 hours, in case anyone has wondered at my silence on this issue. Had a great time riding roller coasters. And now I'm home to TFP's politics board, which is a roller coaster of its own.

This whole thing (not the thread, the issue) is so painfully myopic as to be laughable. To those who are in favor of this constitutional-crisis-in-the-making: your boys are only in power for two more years, at which point it'll be somebody else, and if it keeps going the way it's currently going, it'll be somebody you won't like much. Would YOU like THEM to have the legal authority to pick up anybody they deem to be "against America" without warrant or probable cause and take them away to torture? Or will you be screaming dictatorship if they have that kind of power?

Second: this whole thing (not the issue, the thread) points to PRECISELY what's wrong in American political discourse. USTWO: YOU CAN'T START A THREAD AND THEN PROUDLY IGNORE THE RESPONSES WITHOUT HAVING POSTED A TROLL. You had no intention of having a discussion here. I suspect you were mainly interested in cutting off a very likely (and unassailable) liberal point. There's no basis for discussion here. There's no point. I'm right on the edge of giving up on Tilted Politics--why the hell should I bother when there's no expectation that ANYTHING I say will even be read?

Will's learned assertion about torture is as valid as your learned assertion about global warming. My opinion on global warning has actually been swayed by what you had to say about it, and largely because of your credentials in the matter. I recommend you open your mind and pay some attention to someone who might--shocking though it may seem--actually know something you don't, politically inconvenient though it may be to you.

I don't know what I hope to cause with the preceeding paragraph. He's way too busy filling cavities (isn't that convenient?) to actually engage in the conversation he started.