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All torture does is increase the hatred against you, increase the effort to destroy you and try to instill fear, which in the long run it doesn't.

You're going to torture suicide fighters that have pledged to die anyway in the name of their beliefs? Doesn't make sense to me.

I don't understand how we went from a nation that believed and fought for human rights, dignity and justice to using Naziesque techniques and being what we supposedly hated and fought against.

We say, "we'll go this far because our leaders tell us we need to." But do we truly even see what the whole bill states and how it was written?

And even if we do allow our leaders to only "go this far"..... what happened to the Neo-con cry of never back down against your principles?

Throughout history it hasn't been the most fearsome that has won wars.... it has been those with the best belief in what they were fighting for. It has been those that believed and stayed truest to their causes.

By backing down from being a "nation that believed and fought for human rights, dignity and justice" and lowering our standards our beliefs to suit what we need (even though we do not believe in what we do) we have already lost the battle and the war, because if we do not lose this one militaristically, we've lost within ourselves what we once knew and believed to be right. We have become the enemy and sooner or later we will lose the war.

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I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"