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Old 09-28-2006, 07:12 PM   #15 (permalink)
Paradise Lost
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Query: If it was your family (or yourself) that would die in the next terrorist attack on the US, would you support harsh measures like the 'attention slap' or would you allow your family to die (or yourself) for a terrorists right not to be slapped? Would you condem innocent people to death so that a terrorist doesn't have to stand for too long, or have a wrinkled shirt? Not have a bright light shined in his eyes or listen to loud sounds?
Second part first: You mean like the 10 000+ innocent civilians we have killed or have been killed through our actions in Iraq? I bet if Iraq started torturing soldiers for killing innocent civilians you'd have a problem with that.

First part second: We've fought many wars, many innocent lives have been lost on our own side on 'the enemy's' side, but in all that time, have we ever advocated the use of torture? Have we ever thought it would be an effective way to extract information from enemy troops, civilians, etc? No. What makes any of this any different? What makes you think that torture now will help bring the 'terrorists' to justice, whomever they may be? Did it somehow not help before? Would wars have be shortened or conflicts ended sooner if we used torture against them, or as punishment against us? What makes everyone so certain that we could stop a future attack on our soil if only we had torture at our disposal? And this is all assuming one wouldn't happen anyway. You seem to have the horribly disgruntled notion that torture will effectively stop any and all future terrorist attacks against our nation. Because we all know the terrorists work together, and destroying the leader will stop the minions, right? If another attack happens, what will we blame it on next? We didn't torture enough prisoners? We didn't take enough redemption on people who've done NOTHING to this country directly since the attacks?

The stupidity of torture is beyond all comprehension and logic that I can see... Tis a sad day.

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Show me a war where captured American soldiers were not tortured.
I believe I mentioned this before, but if we don't condemn the use of torture, then we have no right as a country to condemn others. Morals aren't relative. I can't kill you in cold blood and but have it okay for you to kill me in cold blood. Just as I can't torture you and be it okay for you to torture me, no matter what the circumstances or how pure our rationale is.
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