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Originally Posted by Ustwo
We have put pressure on the radicals, it makes sense that they would increase their own recruitment efforts in response. My point was that not doing anything but using harsh words and the odd missle strike wasn't doing anything to protect us. I would much rather these guys flock to Iraq, into the waiting jaws of our military than be free to organize an attack on US soil again. So far so good.
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If I understand this, you reject the idea that we're creating more radicals by being there? The report I saw today was that Al-Qaida in Iraq conceeded that 4000 of their fighters (radicals/jihadists by everyone's definitions) have been killed since the invasion. I know I'm way off the topic with this, but hasn't the Iraqi invasion created more jihadists than its eliminated?
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Originally Posted by roachboy
interesting.
the actual pretext for this thread--which is rapidly becoming little more than a repeat of the politics thread about the pope's speech a week ago friday--has largely disappeared. .
the guy whose opera production is at the center of this tempest in a teapot has made his ENTIRE career as a provacateur.
(again) i think it naive to not see this press release as a simple extension of these techniques.
(like i suggested earlier) maybe the production was axed for other reasons--like the bad reception of its 2003 run---and neuefeld responded by taking it public---at this particular moment--which has generated a huge amount of press most of which is in effect an argument that the production should be put on as some kind of act of defiance, a gesture in defense of free speech--so neuefeld positions himself as some kind of free speech martyr--the only beneficiary of this would be him--the outcome: more gigs for the martyr of free speech blah blah blah.
the actual problem here is simply that the opera company of berlin yanked the production from its schedule.
you DO understand that this is a non-event, right?
so the debate is, strictly speaking, about nothing.
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Yup. See my first 3 posts in this thread.
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