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		 What a great thread Ustwo.  Whether intentional or not you have set quite a brilliant trap, and so far every liberal but one was snagged...hook, line and sinker.  All argueing things not even in dispute.  Classic. 
 
Elphaba, kudos to you for at least taking a measured approach to the issue. 
 
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