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Old 09-26-2006, 05:58 PM   #676 (permalink)
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Most of the government officials that have joined the 9/11 truth movement have lost their jobs.
cover-up... or get rid of the crack pots...

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They wouldn't have been impossible if the course set by Clinton were kept.
Richard Clark was a very prominant name in the recent Wallace/Clinton interview. This man knew his shit, but as soon as Bush moved in, Clark was demoted.
I’m not sure if it would have happened if Clinton was still in power, physically it could still happen people could hijack the planes and crash them, however, Clinton did a lot to bring the world together and make people like us. However under bush we lost allot of respect and pissed allot of people off. I do believe it could have happened, but I don’t know if it would or not. A crazy man who wants to kill, will kill, plane and simple, the government can’t be everywhere at every time.

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Claims of bias within the commission
I hope that they can keep an impartial view on the issue, no one in America was untouched by 9/11 it is impossible to find some one impartial, some had conflicts of interest, the major ones were removed. A lot of the conflicts of interest were airline related, and I’m sure, the report came off friendly towards the airlines because of it, however, that does not affect the fact that the planes were hit by planes, and the planes brought them down.
Claims of lack of cooperation from the White House
I know there was resistance, there would be resistance under any administration, someone fucked up and this terrible event happened. They should have been more open, but this does not show guilt of a conspiracy, just that they are covering there asses.

Commissioners Suspected the Pentagon was Deceiving the Commission
Yup, they fucked up and this happened; now they have to explain how, but eventually they were subpoenaed and coughed up the info.

Claims that the investigation lacked adequate funds
Well it was given the funds they asked for, after some resistance, but they got the money they wanted.

Claims the commission was used for partisan purposes
I’m sure it was, by both sides. No cover-up, just crappy politics.

Claims the commission ignored or censored key government evidence
I agree that ignoring the previous evidence is wrong, but still all that evidence shows is that the terrorist did want to harm us.

Claims the commission ignored information regarding Able Danger
This is ‘he said she said’ the committee says he is not credible and has no evidence, he says the evidence was destroyed. This really can’t be answered, his evidence no longer exists, either it never did or it was destroyed. If there was no evidence, the committee was right to dismiss him.

Claims of gentle treatment of Rudy Giuliani
I think they should have grilled him harder, but really what could he have done, he runs the city, but on a disaster of that scale, he is not responsible for what happened.


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Originally Posted by willravel
NIST and Popular Mechanics. Who else?

Also, many members of the 9/11 truth movement are scientists.
Perdue University did some great simulations, there was a Japanese group that did one and several others, I’ll find some for you.
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