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Originally Posted by willravel
Of course the identity was stolen, and of course the government at large is incompetent. Please understand that the dicussion about the passport, then later the identity theft, had nothing to do with my agruments about the physics of the collapses. I hope that's clear. I was trying to point out that the intel from the government, in it's entirity, should be taken with a grain of salt.
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and it should be taken with a grain of salt, however, when we have several independent organizations consisting of physics majors, construction majors and other people who would have a valid viewpoint on the collapse, saying it could have happened; and on the other side we have a handful of people saying it can’t, some of which have degrees, most of which do not. I have to go with the side that has more credible people. There has been plenty of independent research into this by credible organizations, who did full scale fire test to estimate the heat and temperature, who ran computer simulations to see the effects on the building and saw the structural failure the fire caused to say it did not happen.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Most of the stuff they release is only partially true, and is lined with BS to suit their needs. Because of that whenever we hear stuff like, "The money trail leads back to Osama", but we know the funding was Saudi (something that most everyone on the conspiracy and non-conspiracy sides agree on), we can say, "Silly government, propoganda's for kids." The idea is that no one should take the government's word at face value.
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I don’t trust most things this administration says, or the mainstream media for that matter. has anyone seem who bad Afghanistan is getting in the news, no, cause its not being mention on the news, its all going to hell but not being reported on. With everything I post, I make sure there are several other sources that agree with it, not just some guy with an opinion and web space.
Back this administration, they are very careful not to outright lie, although they do some times, most of what they say is a stretch of the truth. I’d give examples, but I don’t think any one here will disagree with me, if you do, let me know and I’ll find some.
I have not read up on the money connection, what I do know is that OBL is wealthy, his family is wealthy, but they have disowned him. As for Saudi connection, I don’t know.
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Originally Posted by willravel
Hahaha! Yes, that was the other one. I had been trying to get the topic of 9/11 into Politics for about a year, and I got the green light from Tec, Uber, and some other mods. That thread was to be 100% scientific, asking and answering questions that were provable and had nothing to do with conjecture or rumor or speculation. That was a very tedious task, and the thread has since fallen into obscurity (thanks in no small part to the continuing efforts of certian board members who are unable to keep their insults to themselves). I did manage to keep the thread from being moved to Paranoia, though, and I figured that was a small victory. I spent half the time in that thread asking questions and following science, and the other half trying desperatly to keep those who shall remain nameless from destroying the thread through flaming and personal attacks.
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i tried to keep that one on track too, but uh... yeah people who will remain nameless stopped that one dead...
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Originally Posted by willravel
I think I just spilled my burrito on my hat. Damn it.
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food goes in mouth, not in hat
