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Originally Posted by Seaver
Really? WWI was because of Christianity? How about 2? How about Nazi'ism? How about Stalin? How about Mao? How about Pol-Pot? How about the millions killed by the Huns, how about the Mongols, how about the Vikings? how about all the cities decimated by Rome? How about the hundreds of Chinese civil wars? How about the genocides in Africa?
Dont spew lies like that and expect us to swallow it.
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WW2 yes, Hitler was able to do what he did to Jews and "liberal thinkers" because he sold to the German people a vision of the master race which was in part Christian.
The Huns, Vikings and Mongols killed millions????? Hmmmm didn't know that, considering during those times there weren't that many people on Earth. They were after land but their religion never came into play.
Rome did not decimate cities, they laid siege and if necessary did battle them, but in the end they would make peace treaties with those cities stating Rome would protect them, but allowed those cities their freedom of religions.
What about Manifest destiny, the tribes in North America, South America, the Polynesians, the Africans, the Indian sub continent, China during the European imperialistic/ colonial age?
Not lies, facts.
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Originally Posted by flstf
Pan, I get your point but all your examples are hundreds of years ago, some several centuries. We should of course be concerned about what religious fanatics of all stripes are up to but the biggest threat to civilians today is from Islamic extremists. You are right, I have no true knowledge of these religions other than what is reported in the papers and news shows telling us who the terrorists are after an attack.
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True, Christianity doesn't promote the violence it once did, nor have wars between the denominations it had when they were all forming.
But, if we look at the history of how the churches ruled the areas, the militant structure based on religion, the "we must kill or convert" thinking that was prevelant in those times, we find the same thinking now.
Perhaps, it is a part of religion's aging that accepts violence, hatred, prejudices in order to convert more. Fear, jealousy, prejudice work wonders in keeping a population suppressed into a controlled belief.
Watching how "Christians" will bomb abortion clinics, form groups like the KKK, tell people how to vote, form prejudices and hate groups in "His name" and so on, yes those are extreme examples, but we don't hear Pat Robertson speaking out on abortion clinic bombings, burning crosses and so on, do we?
So why do we expect every Imam to speak out against their extremists?
Especially when religion can be a great tool for power and control.