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Old 09-21-2006, 07:47 AM   #603 (permalink)
Dilbert1234567
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Originally Posted by willravel
According to Popular Mechanics, it's 1500F. Remember? I linked it above. 1800F was the maximum theoretical temperature including evrything else in the building given by NIST (without any evidence or equasions, btw).

Time for work, I'll respond to the rest later. Good luck on the midterm.
Actually they ran experiments, both virtual, and real world, to determine the temperature of the fires, I posted a link a few post ago.

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Originally Posted by willravel
Remember, jet fuel burns between 800F and 1500F, which suggests that it's more than posible that they were burning at 800F. They could have been burning at 400F, considering that most of the jet fuel burned off in the initial explosion. Not even Dilbert could make the buiding fall with 800F fires...

you just got done saying it was likely that the temps were 800F, which is highly un likely, just like it is unlikely for a fire fueled only by jet fuel (jet fuel in controlled lab conditions) to burn at 800, or 1800, 800 is the minimum temperature for it to burn and has to be under the worst circumstances, 1800 is under optimal circumstances, the fires had decent circumstances, and the other fuels inside the building would allow the fires to get to 1500F.

as for making the building collapse with only 800F to deal with, yes i could, but it would be beyond the scope of what reasonable is, as i previously showed http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showpos...&postcount=437 it is possible to expands the support girders by the 2 inches required to drop the support by heating the metal by 231.5C, which is in fact 450 F. but a higher temperature just makes more since.
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