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Old 09-20-2006, 03:02 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by politicophile
I think I have explained my position to the best of my ability, so I'm more or less done here. If you don't understand why having a moral objection to individuals having moral objections is self-contradictory, I can't help you. This isn't about tu quoque fallacies because the point I am trying to prove is that people do (and should) make moral judgments about others. By pointing out that other people make moral judgments in the same way I do, I was attempting to directly advance that argument. The inapplicability of this term will become clear if you reread the acticle from which I quoted when I introduced it.

Although the group's general moral judgments towards me have been harsh, they have nonetheless reinforced my claim that everyone makes such judgments. In fact, the general concensus seems to be that moral judgments should be morally judged to be inappropriate. If nothing else, the entire situation has given me a new appreciation for irony.

Ignoring ndawg's continued, repeated attacks on my intelligence and character, I would like to clarify an earlier statement that has recently been misconstrued: When I said "I don't have to be perfect to know that what you're doing is wrong. You are a worse person because you smoke. Period." what I meant was "You are a worse person because you smoke than you would be if you did not. Period." I did NOT mean "You are a worse person than me because you smoke. Period."

You may resume your insults now.
That is not what you said.
I could say 'I am a better person' and just 'mean' it to say I'm a better person alive than dead...
Would you take it the first or second way?
If you think I've insulted you, you don't know me very well at all. When I insult, the target knows it.
No one has made 'moral' judgments about you...your paranoia is showing. What everyone HAS done is tell you not to do so to others. No one here knows your moralities, save your disgust for cigarette smoke. And no one here gives a rat's ass how you live, as long as you're not some whacked abuser.
Whatever 'point' you were trying to make fell back on yourself. It's pretty damned clear the majority of the posters have a 'live and let live' attitude and don't like being told it's wrong.
So, exactly where are these attacks on your intelligence and character? What's that phrase again? It's twice you pointed out something I said without actually showing what was said.....
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