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Old 09-20-2006, 11:22 AM   #61 (permalink)
high_jinx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ngdawg
And that goes both ways. Someone who insists another is bad for that habit, put themselves on a pedestal that could easily be chopped down because of something THEY do others think is bad.
Seeing balls of mucus on sidewalks grosses me out; it's disgusting as is hearing and seeing them being coughed there. It's inconsiderate, but I have no idea if that person is a bad person, just rude.
Seeing hanging bellies of flesh in sweatpants is disgusting. Are they bad people?
I don't grant absolution for my habits, but they are MY habits and I do my best not to infringe them on others. But the self-righteous attitudes of some comes with the thought that they have every right to infringe those attitudes on others.
Making generalized assumptions about a person's heart and mind because they smoke or weigh half a ton or snap their gum, whatever, is sanctimonious bullshit.
And if they don't want to get to know the person, not the action, I say, their loss.
The thing is i didn't call anyone bad, i asked about the if and how your self image stayed good in the storm of something that you know is proven to be bad to subject others to.

i don't want to deal with absolutes here and i wish that everyone would get away from my admittedly mistaken "bad person" terminology and more into their own mindset. I've tried to illustrate this with examples from my life and friends i'm around that do smoke. I don't sit in judgement on smokers and i don't shut down my chances of getting to know them, especially if i continually see the good in them.

your spitting on the sidewalk analogy only works so far, ngdawg, and thats as far as the fact that smoking can be partially to blame for someone else having an uncomfortable or off day from being around a smoker.

seeing spit on the sidewalk or someone doing it does not, however, have a harmful effect on their health or a decent chance to cause them illness or death.

Most bad habits fall into the spitting category, not the smoking one.

So that's why i want to know how aware smokers are of what they are doing every day and how they feel about it.

Your answer has no bearing on what kind of person you are and whether i'd like to share a beer with you and have a chat sometime.
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