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Originally Posted by Dilbert1234567
There is no need to defend it; fire is that hot, saying it isn’t just stupid. fastom has a fundamental misunderstanding of science, specifically but not limited to heat, temperature, and energy.
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I was responding to Seaver, someone content to try and ride your coat tails and flame.
Fatsom said the fires were not 1500C, a fact that even Popular Mechanics agrees with:
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Originally Posted by Popular Mechanics
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Anyone who says that jet fuel, even assisted by perfect burning conditions, can reach a temperature of 1500C, or
2732F, needs to revisit basic chemistry and physics. 1500F is about 815.56C, the number that most 9/11 conspiracy theorists and debunkers alike agree on. Unless you're ready to say that Popular Mechanics, the primary antagonit to 9/11 conspiracy theorists, is wrong, then I suggest we agree from here on that the fires could not have been higher than 815C if they were caused by and fueled by airplane fuel. Fatsom is right to point out that 1500C is an outragous number, and I give him props for sticking with it. If you continue to claim 1500C, then you should admit that the fure was not fueled by the egular contents of the WTC and the jet fuel. In essence, you'd have to admit foul play and thus join the dark side. You'd be welcomed with open arms, of course, but I don't see that happening.
Fatsom also mentioned the fire suppresing system, something that isn't often discussed. We don't know a lot about the sprinkler system, and it could play a large part in the science of our discussion.
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Originally Posted by Cynthetiq
Have you seen building schematics? There are pipes of water, vents, etc. Air pressure changing as the building collapses pushes air pressure down vents/pipes, those things have to go someplace especially in pipes since they are closed systems. Vents would be pusing air out, but eventually it would flow much more than it was designed for and push out greater amounts of air.
To see simply how this works take a garden hose and blow with your mouth from one end, then use a high pressure compressor on the same end and see the difference in how much distance the water goes from the other end.
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The buildings fell at basically a free fall speed. Are you suggesting that the copllapsing debris and dust inside the building were moving fast that free fall speeds? Do you know how much pressure that would take?