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Old 09-17-2006, 03:29 PM   #76 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by ratbastid
Really? So it's only crazy liberals who disapprove of Bush? Interesting... So you're saying that 67% of the US is made up members of the radical left. Where's the "moderate base", in that political cosmology? In the 32% that supports Bush?

(Note that I'm using "approval rating" here because it's less volatile language than "see Bush as evil." Last I looked, there are no polls asking about people's perception of Bush as "evil". To get a complete picture of public opinion, you have to look at both the approval rating and the polls about impeachment.)

Consider a more statistically supportable explanation: only those who are locked into their rightist views still support Bush, and the rest of the country at least disapproves, and at most is extremely pissed off.

That's right, Ustwo: YOU'RE part of the fringe.

Incidentally, I don't think Bush is evil. I don't believe in the concept of evil--I'm sure in his mind he had good intentions. But if Clinton was guilty of high crimes and misdemeanors, the for DAMN sure Bush is too.
I thought of this post, when I read this, tonight:
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http://rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm

President Bush Job Approval
September 17, 2006
President George W. Bush addresses the nation from the Oval Office Monday evening, Sept. 11, 2006, marking the fifth anniversary of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. President Bush said, The war against this enemy is more than a military conflict. It is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century and the calling of our generation. White House photo by Eric Draper
Photo Courtesy of whitehouse.gov

The latest Bush bounce is over. Today, 41% of American adults approve of the way that President Bush is performing his job and 57% disapprove. That’s exactly where the numbers were before the President’s 9/11 speech.

Overall, 21% of Americans Strongly Approve and 42% Strongly Disapprove.
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http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/009828.php
It became clear sometime in early 2006--I can't recall pinpointing exactly when--that President Bush's call to "stay the course" in Iraq meant he and the GOP would dance with who they brought through the 2006 elections. It is the only way they can retain Congress.

But it has also been increasingly clear that the decision has already been made--has been made for some time--to change course after the elections. James Baker's <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/16/AR2006091600636_pf.html">group</a> is designed and intended to be the cover for declaring victory and getting out of Iraq. If for no other reason, the pressure from within the GOP to fix this mess before the 2008 election will be enormous.

So my question is, how many American troops will have died between the time the decision was made to get out of Iraq and the time we actually do get out of Iraq? How many American lives will it cost to give the GOP a chance to retain control of Congress?


-- TPM Reader DK

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...600636_pf.html
Called From Diplomatic Reserve
Former Secretary of State Leads Attempt to Salvage Iraq Mission

By Michael Abramowitz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, September 17, 2006; A23

Is Jim Baker bailing out the Bushes once again?

The former secretary of state, James A. Baker III, a confidant of President George H.W. Bush, visited Baghdad two weeks ago to take a look at the vexing political and military situation. He was there as co-chairman of the bipartisan Iraq Study Group, put together by top think tanks at the behest of Congress to come up with ideas about the way forward in Iraq.

The group has attracted little attention beyond foreign policy elites since its formation this year. But it is widely viewed within that small world as perhaps the last hope for a midcourse correction in a venture they generally agree has been a disaster.

The reason, by and large, is the involvement of Baker, 76, the legendary troubleshooter who remains close to the first President Bush and cordial with the second. Many policy experts think that if anyone can forge bipartisan consensus on a plan for extricating the United States from Iraq -- and then successfully pitch that plan to a president who has so far seemed impervious to outside pressure -- it is the man who put together the first Gulf War coalition, which evicted Saddam Hussein from Kuwait in 1991........

......Baker is not revealing much of his hand. He has indicated that recommendations will not be forthcoming until after the November elections, in an effort to keep the group above the political fray. He has also asked those involved in the study group -- members and staffers alike -- not to talk to the media, so most of those interviewed for this article spoke only on the condition of anonymity. Baker's assistant said the co-chairman would not be available to be interview.......
If it is true that American troops' lives are being sacrificed "to give the GOP a chance to retain control of Congress", in November, these disgusting, traitorous f**cks that pretend to be "our leaders", must be approaching the midterm elections, and the holidays that follow, secure in the knowledge, that, unlike in our family, where we have a son serving in the military, who is about to be deployed to a GWOT "combat zone" by this criminal "CIC", while the "leaders' " families will fill all of the chairs at their own holiday dinner tables. The males in their families, all have "other priorities".

It isn't even disclosed if Bush's two daughters, both college graduates now, for more than a year, even have jobs, let alone whether they serve the country in the GWOT.
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