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BBtB · 05-28-2003, 12:21 AM

Of course there are major flaws in your system. What you forget is every single living breathing person on this planet is in some form of religion. First off lets define religion. Now of course this is the biggest problem we will all face. But no matter what the subject matter is (Wether it be belief in God,Angels,Demons,Heaven,Hell,Karama,Reincarnation) you can really only believe either x or y (and sometimes z) For example as part of your religion you either believe there is a God or not. Obvious example of people who believe in A God is Jews,Christians and Muslims. We shall call this X. Or you do not believe in God at all. This will be your secular humanist as well as your Budahtists and some other eastren religions. This is Y. Now this example also includes a Z. There are people who believe in multiple gods. Such as hindu. The great thing about these religions is that you don't have to believe in any one particluar god. They are all good. Next step in defining a religion is its thoughts on Heaven. This one is a little easier. X and Y. Exists or dosn't exist. Christians,Muslims,Jews,Hinduism and Budahism all believe in one form of heaven or another (Although yes in the last two you DO have to be reincarnated so many times before making it there) Secular humanism does not. This is about the only parrell between Secula humanism and other "real" religions that I can not find although I am hoping someone will point one out for me. At any rate the point is you probably ARE a secular humanist (and probaby don't even realize it) but I do not think you believe that secular humanist principles should be held back.

If you get nothing else out of my post, atleast try to understand this, EVERYONE is religous. Most people who say they have no religion are in fact secular humanist. I am not trying to run secular humanism through the mud and say it is a bad religion. I am just saying it IS a religion and everyone (but defintly secular humanist) needs to sit down and read up about religions (their own and others) and atleast understand their role and their importance. For even if they are all false (Which again, They can't ALL be false can they?) they play an important role in peoples lives.

My final thoughts. I think that children SHOULD be exposed to religions but they should be exposed to alot. As it is for most american children it appears the only choice is christanity and secular humanism and that is some pretty crummy choices if thats all you got. Again I am not trying to trash either religion but how can you decide what you want to be if you don't know everything about them AND everything about the others?

05-28-2003, 12:21 AM	#7 (permalink)
BBtB ClerkMan! Location: Tulsa, Ok.	Of course there are major flaws in your system. What you forget is every single living breathing person on this planet is in some form of religion. First off lets define religion. Now of course this is the biggest problem we will all face. But no matter what the subject matter is (Wether it be belief in God,Angels,Demons,Heaven,Hell,Karama,Reincarnation) you can really only believe either x or y (and sometimes z) For example as part of your religion you either believe there is a God or not. Obvious example of people who believe in A God is Jews,Christians and Muslims. We shall call this X. Or you do not believe in God at all. This will be your secular humanist as well as your Budahtists and some other eastren religions. This is Y. Now this example also includes a Z. There are people who believe in multiple gods. Such as hindu. The great thing about these religions is that you don't have to believe in any one particluar god. They are all good. Next step in defining a religion is its thoughts on Heaven. This one is a little easier. X and Y. Exists or dosn't exist. Christians,Muslims,Jews,Hinduism and Budahism all believe in one form of heaven or another (Although yes in the last two you DO have to be reincarnated so many times before making it there) Secular humanism does not. This is about the only parrell between Secula humanism and other "real" religions that I can not find although I am hoping someone will point one out for me. At any rate the point is you probably ARE a secular humanist (and probaby don't even realize it) but I do not think you believe that secular humanist principles should be held back. If you get nothing else out of my post, atleast try to understand this, EVERYONE is religous. Most people who say they have no religion are in fact secular humanist. I am not trying to run secular humanism through the mud and say it is a bad religion. I am just saying it IS a religion and everyone (but defintly secular humanist) needs to sit down and read up about religions (their own and others) and atleast understand their role and their importance. For even if they are all false (Which again, They can't ALL be false can they?) they play an important role in peoples lives. My final thoughts. I think that children SHOULD be exposed to religions but they should be exposed to alot. As it is for most american children it appears the only choice is christanity and secular humanism and that is some pretty crummy choices if thats all you got. Again I am not trying to trash either religion but how can you decide what you want to be if you don't know everything about them AND everything about the others? __________________ Meridae'n once played "death" at a game of chess that lasted for over two years. He finally beat death in a best 34 out of 67 match. At that time he could ask for any one thing and he could wish for the hope of all mankind... he looked death right in the eye and said ... "I would like about three fiddy"