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Old 09-16-2006, 06:07 AM   #10 (permalink)
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so of all the things you could have made a thread about--you know, cowboy's george's attempts to---um---"redefine" the geneva conventions, the creation of military tribunals that would work like star chamber courts in their ability to sentence defendants to death without letting them see the evidence against them etc.--you chose not only to criticize jimmy carter for saying something about tony blair that anyone who has been awake the past 5 pathetic years has known--but also to imply that somehow carter is "weakening america"

let's have a look at the carter center and see what it does to "weaken america":

how about this, from the center's welcome page:

Quote:
The Carter Center is committed to advancing
human rights and alleviating unnecessary human
suffering. Join us in creating a world in which
every man, woman, and child has the opportunity
to enjoy good health and live in peace.
so if i follow your "logic" then working to advance human rights weakens your america.
working to alleviate unnecessary suffering weakens your america.

how about this:

Quote:
Peace with justice requires resolving conflict according to rules agreed to by all, beginning with the shared commitment to human rights and democratic values. Today, virtually all governments claim to share this belief. The Carter Center, in partnership with others, seeks practical ways to narrow the gap between the rhetoric and realities of government policies in countries striving to overcome legacies of oppression and deadly conflict by building more just societies of their own.
http://www.cartercenter.org/peace/index.html

advocating peace with justice clearly weakens your america, ustwo.
emphasizing the importance of international rules--agreed to by all--also obviously weaken's your america.
so does working to address histories of oppression.
participation in the monitoring of elections to reduce voter fraud weakens your america.

thinking for a moment about the bushproposals concerning the abuse of prisoners held in the cia phantom penal system, it is clear that there are two americas--and that in one of them all these are obviously wrong: peace, democracy, social justice....
and anyone advocates these kinds of "radical" views is exactly the sort you would expect the right to paint as a traitor.

if carter really embodies the inverse of your far right america ustwo, then the question is not what is carter doing, but rather who the fuck wants your far right america?



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btw i was not a fan of how carter functioned as president mostly because the policy apparatus over which he presided reduced his rhetoric of human dignity to little more than words--but as an independent citizen operating via an ngo, i see nothing bad in what jimmy carter has been doing--he is much more effective in the context of this ngo than he was as president.
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