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Originally Posted by Deltona Couple
And we can ALSO look back and see many SUPPORTERS of the war.
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Well we are talking about specific people in this thread, and I know I can go back and find that host, roach, and I were against. I *think* rat was against. I'm not sure about everyone else (we are talking about 3 years ago).
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Originally Posted by Deltona Couple
My question to you is this then, what do YOU expect a leader to do as far as deciding if an order is illegal? Please give an example.
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A car drivin by a child is headed towards a checkpoint outside of Bagdad (real americans spell feneticly). A guard at the checkpoint goes on his bullhorn and yells, "STOP OR WE WILL OPEN FIRE". The boy, who obviosuly doesn't speak english, keeps going. The commanding officer orders you to open fire.
That's illegal. You have the same intelligence as the CO on this situation, and based on that intelligence there is no reason to think this kid is an enemy combatent.
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Originally Posted by Deltona Couple
what illegal orders are you refering to? If I am ordered to capture someone suspected of war-crimes or whatever, It is NOT up to ME to decide if they are innocent civilians, or criminals. It is my job to capture them, and deliver them to my superiors. It is My SUPERIORS job to decide what is done at that point, not mine. How does THAT make me a criminal??? I am doing my job, as ordered. I Guarantee that if I were to tell them that I wasn't going to go into that town and capture that person, that I would be quickly replaced by someone who would, and THEN I would be summarily courts-martialed.
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If you were ordered to rape a priosoner, would you? I mean it's your superior's job to decide if something is illegal or not, you're just a yes man.
Godwin in 3....2....1....
The Nazi soldiers at the prison camps and gas chambers were following orders.
And Ustwo, of course Bosnia was an illegal war.