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Old 09-12-2006, 08:30 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Deltona Couple
Your analogy, while colourful, is still not a good comparison. While I am not saying his policies ARE preventing attacks
You may not be saying that, but my comment was a response to a statement that Ustwo made.

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, 100%, YOU in turn cannot say that they are NOT preventing attacks, because you are not a member of congress or the Deputy director of the FBI or the President himself. NONE OF US KNOW is my point.
This is true to an extent. However, if someone lies to me repeatedly, I tend to call into question anything he says. Bush told me that he was going to get bin Laden. That was a lie, because later he said he wasn't all that interested in bin Laden.

Bush told me Iraq definitely had WMD's. That was a lie.

Bush's henchman Rumsfeld told me that he knew exactly where the WMD's were - between Baghdad and Tikrit. That was obviously a lie since there were no WMD's.

Bush told me he cares about jobs, but then supported policies that encourage companies to export jobs overseas.

In other words, Bush has lied through his teeth enough times that when Bush tells me his actions are preventing terrorist attacks, I cannot take that statement at face value.


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I think you completely misunderstood what I was saying. There we no WMD that were found, but Bush was responding to intel that he was given by other people in other contries, informants if you will.
Yes, he was responding to very convenient intel that went against what the CIA was telling him - that Saddam didn't have WMD.

He also in his state of the union address said Iraq was buying yellowcake uranium even though he had already been told that was not true.


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True, you can sit there and say that you donot know that me or Ustwo or Halx are not out to get you...but if you were told my say 3 or 4 of your friends that you trusted, that I was stockpiling a couple of handgrenades and were planning of attacking you, wouldn't you want to come check me out?
Hold on - we didn't go check Iraq out. We annihilated them. If I were to copy the actions of the USA in your grenade analogy, I wouldn't just check you out to find out whether or not you had the grenades. I'd walk up, blow your head off, and THEN look for the grenades.

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OK, so you found I didn't have any, should we now crucify you and call you a bad person because of it?

If I killed you for it, hell yes. That's called murder.

The iraq war is nothing but murder writ large.
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