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Old 09-10-2006, 02:01 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Two points:

<b>1.)</b> IMO, since the U.S. "borrows" $1 billion every calendar day, to "purchase" 14 million bbls of "petroleum equivalents", and another $1 billion "plus" to buy all of the shit that is imported and stocked on the shelves of it's 3800 Wal-Marts, and to buy the 8 million new vehicles made by foreign companies, and borrows another $1.616 billion, each and every day....to "finance" the federal treasury spending deficit, money that the US government and it's people have no ability (do the math..... $1.4 trillion in new, annual debt to foreigners, every year, at a minimum, going forward....on a base of an existing $13 trillion combined international "balance of payments" debt, and US treasury debt....up from half as much of a trade debt in 2001 ($400 billion to $800 billion, annually, in just four years....and US treasury debt, up from $5.5 trillion in 2001, to $8.3 trillion in just 50 months, an annual deficit spending, increased from no more than ZERO, in fiscal year end, Oct., 2001, to $590 billion annually, NOW!)...to ever pay back.

What is at stake now, is not the access by the US to readily available petroleum and raw material supplies, and a steady flow of imported consumer products, but rather....what is at stake is the continued ability of the US to borrow enough money from foreigners at interest rates that are low enough not to interrupt the status quo.....the US only services the interest payments on it's rising mountain of debt. No principle of the debt has been retired via paying down any portion of the debt, since 2001.

The US will be compelled, by the math....to either take petroleum or other wealth from it's foreign debt holders and suppliers, via the threat of the use of military force against them....or it will have to learn to do WITHOUT. I don't see the latter happening, so.....

.....any discussion about "the oil", must also be a discussion about "the bankruptcy", because that is the inevitable course that the US is currently headed towards. No one even bothers to advance any discussion with "math" that leads to any non-military solution to this consumption fueled, debt crisis.
The US has more than doubled it's military spending since 2001, even when the "off-budget" appropriations, spent on the GWOT "fronts" in the "Stans", and in the M.E., are excluded. Tax cuts have aggravated and accelerated both the federal debt increase and the excessive consumption driven trade imbalance. Ridiculously low interest rates of the last five years in the US, fueled a speculative housing bubble that provided the equivalent of the entire number of new jobs created during that time. The percentage of US GDP attributed to housing, rose from an average 8 percent annually, to 15 percent this years, as for example, California's 36 million residents produced 500,000 realty agents, and of theat number, a third also held realty broker licenses.
One realtor for every 72 Californians, including the children and the retired poor, folks unlikely to be purchasing, or selling homes.

The US is not in danger of experiencing an "oil shortage", just a shortage of paper money that has value enough to purchase much oil, and the common sense required to manage and preserve what value remains in that money. IMO, the investment has been made in the military, and it will be used to directly procure what the dollar will be too weak to buy.

<b>2.)</b>Ch'i, you should know, that the man who singlehandedly determines for a signifigant number of Americans, what is "liberal media", to be marginalized and ridiculed, and intimidated into "towing the party line", and what is "fair and balanced"....is as immersed in the christian religious fundamentalist dogma, as "the party", and too many of it's unwitting and professed to be secular....but fully committed, anyway....supporters of the "party", and unquestioning defenders of the political "dear leaders", who seem fine with the course that the nation is on.....to fiscal ruin.

Here he is, talking the "talk". It's his "monster", and he seems quite comfortable with it. He's not satisfied (and neither is his "chorus") that NBC has put this on national TV, for children, on saturday mornings:
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http://www.veggiecurriculum.com/bible.html
....Kids will not only learn important messages from the Bible, they will develop a life-long relationship with the Lord. Jesus wants to have a personal relationship with each of his children. Kids will learn how to connect with him in every aspect of their life!

6 Units, each with 8 Lessons that will plug kids into a powerful relationship with God.......
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&i...Search+the+Web
http://www.mrc.org/BozellColumns/ent...ol20060908.asp
NBC Slices and Dices “Veggie Tales”
by L. Brent Bozell III
September 8, 2006

Just what is this entertainment media obsession with Tom Cruise’s baby pictures? Is there nothing else of interest out there in Hollywood? Actually, there is – and they’re ignoring it, proving just how disconnected the Hollywood press is from the American mainstream.

Maybe you’re familiar with the computer-animated cartoon “Veggie Tales,” a video series targeted at children aged 2 to 8, and which features moral and religious tales hosted by Bob the Tomato and Larry the Cucumber. Beginning in 1993, the series was distributed on VHS tapes, telling biblical stories like the Battle of Jericho, David and Goliath, and the tale of the Good Samaritan. Each show ended with a Bible verse.

And it’s been a marketing phenomenon. Without any broadcasting or syndication on television, “Veggie Tales” has sold more than 50 million “Veggie Tales” DVDs and videotapes – primarily, but quietly, through big chain stores like Target, Wal-Mart, and Family Christian Stores. As their popularity spread, so did “Veggie Tales” T-shirts, plush toys, and other products.

In true Hollywood fashion, the show’s focus on young children and its cutesy vegetable stars made it a frequent target of mockery. The absolute low point came on Comedy Central’s perverse cartoon “Drawn Together,” which satirized the show by having the Larry the Cucumber character go on a murderous rampage, killing nearly all the Comedy Central cartoon’s major characters, shooting most of them bloodily in the head. Behind the killings, a laugh track howled. No one in Hollywood wondered if that might be “offensive,” let along just plain sick.

Eventually, someone in Tinseltown saw the commercial possibilities. Now the news breaks that NBC (as well as NBC-owned Telemundo) will begin showing “Veggie Tales” cartoons on Saturday mornings for the new fall season. Maybe this isn’t Earth-shattering news. In a world of 24/7 cartoon programming on cable and satellite, Saturday morning at the Big Three networks in a forgotten land, and the days where children would get up and watch test patterns on Saturdays in anticipation of cartoons has long passed.

But here is what should be news. The early word from producers is that NBC has grown increasingly fierce about editing something out of “Veggie Tales” – those apparently unacceptable, insensitive references to God and the Bible.

So NBC has taken the very essence of “Veggie Tales” – and ripped it out. It’s like “Gunsmoke,” without the guns, or “Monday Night Football,” without the football.

Think about this corporate mindset. NBC is the network that hired a squad of lawyers to argue that dropping the F-bomb on the Golden Globe Awards isn’t indecent for children, but invoking God is wholly unacceptable. Or, as one e-mailing friend marveled: “So, saying ‘F--- you’ is protected First Amendment speech on NBC but not ‘God bless you.’”

The cartoon’s creator, Phil Vischer, posted on his personal Web log the news of NBC’s increasing creative stranglehold. “At first we were told everything was 'okay' except the Bible verse at the end. Frankly, that news [never] really surprised me, because, heck, we're talking about NBC here. [Would they allow] God on Saturday morning? It didn't seem likely.”
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http://www.philvischer.com/index.php/?p=18
......"So, Phil, will they actually let you talk about God on NBC?" Oh, good question. I figured you'd get to that at some point. The answer is… yes and no. At first we were told everything was 'okay' except the Bible verse at the end. Frankly, that news really surprised me, because, heck, we're talking about NBC here. God on Saturday morning? It didn't seem likely. Since we've started actually producing the episodes, though, NBC has gotten a little more restrictive. (I think they actually sat down and started watching a few VeggieTales videos. "Hey wait - these are religious.") So it's gotten trickier, and we're having to do a little more editing. More than I'm comfortable with? Frankly, yes. But I had already committed to helping Big Idea with this, and I really didn't want to leave them in a tight spot. Plus, the new stuff we're coming up with is really fun, and at least some new kids will meet Bob and Larry on NBC, and maybe wander into Wal-Mart and buy a video with all the God still in. So it could be better, but overall it's not a total loss. The new stuff is really cute. You'll like it.........
But it grew worse than that edict, Vischer reported: “Since we've started actually producing the episodes, though, NBC has gotten a little more restrictive.” How so? He reported “we’re having to do a little more editing.” How much? So much so that Vischer implied that the God talk is landing on the cutting-room floor. Now he’s merely hoping that people will “maybe wander into Wal-Mart and buy a video with all the God still in.”

This is one of those moments where you understand that networks like NBC are only talking an empty talk and walking an empty walk when it comes to the First Amendment, and “creative integrity,” and so on. They have told parents concerned about their smutty programs like “Will and Grace” that if they’re offended, they have a remote control as an option. The networks have spent millions insisting that we have a V-chip in our TV sets. Change the channel. Block it out.

But when it comes to religious programming – programming that doesn’t even mention Jesus Christ – just watch the hypocrisy. Instead of telling viewers to just change the channel if they don’t like it, or put in a V-chip for Bible verses, they demand to producers that all that outdated old-time religion has to be shredded before broadcast.

It’s truly sad that this anti-religious hypocrisy would emerge. Today, no one in network TV fears what the children are watching – unless it makes them think about God.
Well.....goodness....couldn't Phil Vischer have simply walked away from NBC's money and the benefit to him from network distribution, in defense of christ, over money/commercial success, and saved the busy Mr. Bozell the task of writng his protest column and distributing it to over <a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&q=veggie+tales+nbc&btnmeta%3Dsearch%3Dsearch=Search+the+Web">one hundred thousand links on the internet</a> ?

The guy who wrote the preceding column, <b>has close to half the country believing in "liberal media bias", to the extent that that "half", has to get it's "news", from sources that the rest of us either never heard of, or wouldn't take seriously, if our lives depended on it.....and ironically, they may.</b>

On talk radio around here, the callers and the hosts uniformly "bleat" about the Aljazeerah Constitution ( www.ajc.com ), and the "Taliban" USA Today. This recently took up an entire 3 hours radio "talk" segment:
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http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51777

.......Liberal bias in the military press?

The bias of the media isn't just at the major television networks and newspapers, but extends further then you might think.

Last week the pro-troop organization <a href="http://www.moveamericaforward.org/">Move America Forward</a>, where I serve as chairman, was informed by two reporters of Air Force Times that they would not accept future PR materials from us.

I was dumbfounded. In the journalism business, it's almost unheard of to ban a group from sending you their news releases; let alone for a military publication to tell a pro-troop nonprofit group that their material would not be accepted.

In a voicemail message to one of our staffers, reporter Bryant Jordan made it clear that he didn't want to be bothered with news releases from "somebody on the right" who "is supporting the troops":

This is Bryant Jordan, Air Force Times, umm look, we're just not interested in getting this stuff, we get stuff all the time, I'm not, just just because we write about the military doesn't mean we're gonna snatch up every column by somebody on the right who's ya know is supporting the troops. (You can listen to the audio clip of Mr. Jordan's message.)

Jordan also wrote e-mails to our staff criticizing Move America Forward and citing material from the Center for Media and Democracy, a left-wing organization described as "a counterculture public relations effort disguised as an independent media organization."

Odd that someone from a military publication would find himself of like mind with such an organization, no?

But you see, Air Force Times and its sister publications Amy Times, Navy Times and Marine Times are not published by the military, <b>but in fact are published by Gannett, the media outfit that owns USA Today and a number of local television stations around the nation.</b>

A long history of liberal bias .......
But....what's this?? http://www.moveamericaforward.org/ is an obviously right wing politcal site ? No.....
Quote:
Working Together To Help Move America Forward !
Move America Forward is a non-profit, non-partisan organization dedicated to preserving our American heritage of freedom and liberty.

The organization was formed in early 2004 by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Kaloogian#False_and_conflicting_endorsements">The Honorable Howard Kaloogian (R-California 1994-2000)</a> and acclaimed radio and television personality, Melanie Morgan (KSFO 560 AM -- San Francisco).
"HOST" comments: <b>Click on the Kaloogian link, he's a f*king nut job!</b>
<b>Kaloogian and Morgan began working together during the Recall Gray Davis movement in California. Kaloogian was Chairman of the Recall Gray Davis Committee and Morgan launched the recall movement on her morning radio show, earning her the title of "Mother of the Recall."

Since then the duo has fought the liberal news media's attack on President Ronald Reagan's legacy via the Defend Reagan Committee and the efforts to undermine support for our troops and the fight against terrorism by the "Blame America First" crowd.</b>

Among the many accomplishments of Move America Forward to date:

* Move America Forward worked in conjunction with RighTalk Radio to lead the "Voices of Soldiers" Truth Tour - with Move America Forward's Co-Chairs (Howard Kaloogian & Melanie Morgan) and MAF Board Member Buzz Patterson leading a delegation of radio talk show hosts to Iraq. <h3>The talk show hosts interviewed thousands of soldiers, providing a forum for them to tell the American people about the accomplishments they are making in Operation Iraqi Freedom and the fight against terrorism.</h3>
People who never heard of L. Brent Bozell, and don't consider themselves to be all that christian centric, probably don't even know how his MRC has filtered their news, and muzzled the working press in the US, and created shaped a patriotic-fundamentalist-christian, media and politcal monolith in the
US that is "on message", tolerates no dissent, and no discernible independent thinking or discussion. It's a perfect marriage of party, Jesus, and patriotism, far superior in it's filtration of information, than an elitist "liberal media", ever could have provided.

Could anyone tell me how you can "buy in" to the "message" of "liberal media bias", and not notice, or not be irritated that everyone in "the media" who says that, also all have the same patriotic, christian-centric, reagan worshipping, "rah-rah", "of course we all know that liberals....and that Clinton....blah blah blah" uh.... talking points?

What a shame, that....after 19 years of Bozell's "hard work", it's all about to implode....the good news is that the impending implosion will be a surprise; the failed Bush presidency, the situations "on the ground", in Iraq and in Afghanistan, and the risks to the stabiltiy of housing prices and jobs and to the purchasing power of the US dollar, are all filtered out by the good work of Mr. Bozell's MRC.org , his Sarah Scaife foundation income stream, the christian right, and the RNC and it's volunteers and contributors, as well as the "reporters" that he the MRC has been able to "hew" to report on behalf of "the party", and "the church".

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