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Old 09-07-2006, 11:23 AM   #416 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Deltona Couple
In all honesty? yes I do believe that. The statement was that jet fuel can burn in an OPEN area at that temperature, in the case of the WTC fire, the fuel was in an enclosed area, which science has proven that anything burning in an enclosed area is more than able to reach well above normal temperatures. It doesn't matter how long the steel was at a higher temperature, all it has to do is reach that temperature for a short time period to fail. considering everything else inside the building that was also burning, I do believe that it is possible.
And you have the right to beleive that's possible. I do not. I don't see there beeing enough time or the right circumstances to collapse both buildings at near free fall speeds. If it had burned for 14 hours, and we'd seen warping coming from the center, and we'd seen black smoke, then maybe.
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Originally Posted by Deltona Couple
I personally think that in the perspective of Acham's razor(Forgive the spelling) that it is much easier to believe the terrorist plot, and burning of the buildings causing their collapse, than to believe that our government for several years has been setting the idea up, finding some way to get explosive experts to strategicly bring explosives into the building and place them in exact locations for a controlled explosion, convince american pilots to murder innocent civilians, including themselves, by flying multiple planes into different buildings, then convincing mideastern people to hijack another plane, allowing the passengers to call their love-ones on the phone DESCRIBING the terrorists, and then have the plane crash in Pennsylvania, and for the remaining 5 years keep EVERYONE involved in this plot to be quiet....hmmm.

Or are you convinced that our government got all the people that helped plot it all and shot them the day after so they couldn't confess?
Well they had most of us convinced that Iraq had weapons of mass drestuction for a few years there. They had us convinced that a lone gunman killed JFK, despite the forensic evidence. They had us believe that tho American destroyers in the Gulf of Tonkin were attacked by North Vietnamese gunboats. They had us convinced that Agend Orange simply removed the foilage from trees and had no adverse effect on humans.

How long did it take Germans to they realize that the Reichstag Fire wasn't set by Communists, but was in fact set by Nazis like General Franz Halder in order to force the populace to bestow power on the executive force in their government? Is that a Godwin, evne though it is a case in history where the populace was fooled into thinking one pary was responsible for destroying a natiaonal landmark that eventually lead them to war, when it was in fact another?

Occam's Razor is a very fine tool for deductive reasoning, but it is not a law by any means. Sometimes the complicated answer is the right one.

Also, your suggested conspiracy is not the same one I profess to believing. The passengers and pilots were never found in the rubble, including the terrorists (several of which have been found to be alive and kicking elsewhere with alybies for 9/11), it was never confirmed that the planes that hit the WTC were the ones that went missing, and the calls from the planes have long since been proven fake. The information is all right there.
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