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Fire · 08-29-2006, 11:45 PM

Glad you made it out ok- a thing to note even though it has been said before- Grappling- ie judo, and any other form of wrestling has limited utility if you are outnumbered- everyone should learn how to grapple, but taking someone down when they have a buddy near is going to get you hurt, as you learned-

you got jumped, unaware, and are lucky you werent hurt much worse- shit happens, and training helps, but that is just one of those things... for self defense training, there is no magic bullet, but here are some guidelines that I have found useful in actual fights- many of these things have been said one way or another, and some you now know from hard experience, but for the sake of adding my meager expertise to the pile, here goes......

1- avoid a fight if you can- fights hurt, even when you win, and can ruin your life if you don't- you could not avoid this one, so learn from it
2- always be aware of your suroundings, and who and what is how near to you.
3- train hard, and for real world conditions- any martial art should do large ammounts of training in everyday clothes, and on a variety of surfaces- with the intent being to make your reflexes work reliably, without having to stop to evaluate how what you are wearing or what the terrain is effects your techniques
4- stay off the ground- people hit, stomp and kick you down there! that said, train to fight on the ground- too many classes either ignore it (the if you are on the ground, you are dead approach) or teach you to stay down, or worse, to "go to the ground" -cops do this because they want to subdue someone that they outnumber, and they have handcuffs to do it... armbars and other holds are great, but then what do you do with him-
5- you are not chuck norris, and should never kick anyone above the belt- it looks cool, but will get you hurt bad in real life......
6-cheat- all the time- this is not about fair, it is about living through it- anything that has reach is a weapon, and cant hurt to hit em with

finaly learn from this event- you just got more free experience than a lot of martial artists do in years in a few minutes- and you did not even get a hospital stay out of it- hell, I thought I could fight till I saw a guy get curb stomped in a brawl- then I realized how bad it can be, and ceased to care about anything but living through it....and you did, so you have a great start and an often lacking real world perspective....

08-29-2006, 11:45 PM	#41 (permalink)
Fire Warrior Smith Location: missouri	Glad you made it out ok- a thing to note even though it has been said before- Grappling- ie judo, and any other form of wrestling has limited utility if you are outnumbered- everyone should learn how to grapple, but taking someone down when they have a buddy near is going to get you hurt, as you learned- you got jumped, unaware, and are lucky you werent hurt much worse- shit happens, and training helps, but that is just one of those things... for self defense training, there is no magic bullet, but here are some guidelines that I have found useful in actual fights- many of these things have been said one way or another, and some you now know from hard experience, but for the sake of adding my meager expertise to the pile, here goes...... 1- avoid a fight if you can- fights hurt, even when you win, and can ruin your life if you don't- you could not avoid this one, so learn from it 2- always be aware of your suroundings, and who and what is how near to you. 3- train hard, and for real world conditions- any martial art should do large ammounts of training in everyday clothes, and on a variety of surfaces- with the intent being to make your reflexes work reliably, without having to stop to evaluate how what you are wearing or what the terrain is effects your techniques 4- stay off the ground- people hit, stomp and kick you down there! that said, train to fight on the ground- too many classes either ignore it (the if you are on the ground, you are dead approach) or teach you to stay down, or worse, to "go to the ground" -cops do this because they want to subdue someone that they outnumber, and they have handcuffs to do it... armbars and other holds are great, but then what do you do with him- 5- you are not chuck norris, and should never kick anyone above the belt- it looks cool, but will get you hurt bad in real life...... 6-cheat- all the time- this is not about fair, it is about living through it- anything that has reach is a weapon, and cant hurt to hit em with finaly learn from this event- you just got more free experience than a lot of martial artists do in years in a few minutes- and you did not even get a hospital stay out of it- hell, I thought I could fight till I saw a guy get curb stomped in a brawl- then I realized how bad it can be, and ceased to care about anything but living through it....and you did, so you have a great start and an often lacking real world perspective.... __________________ Thought the harder, Heart the bolder, Mood the more as our might lessens Last edited by Fire; 08-29-2006 at 11:48 PM..