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Old 08-29-2006, 06:50 AM   #6 (permalink)
vanblah
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Originally Posted by RonRyan85
When ELVIS PRESLEY died he continued to make money with his
recordings or rather his wife and family and the ELVIS company;
RCA,ect. continued to make money ...
That makes him a good singer?

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Originally Posted by RonRyan85
When Bing Crosby, Dean
Martin,Roy Orbinson and Frank Sinatra passed away were any
singers of equal talent able to step forward and start getting
the big bucks for their GOLD recordings?
I'll say that those guys sang fairly well, but not great. Their style was certainly popular; but styles fall out of favor. I seriously doubt that anyone trying to emulate that style would make it to the POP charts in the way the rat pack did. There are several people doing it, and doing it well, but since it's not popular they are not in the limelight. You seem to equate record sales with talent. It certainly takes talent to sell a couple million records ... but not musical talent.

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Originally Posted by RonRyan85
Good lyrics,great sounds and songs you could hum or
whistle by yourself were the result of GREAT SONGS sung by
GREAT SINGERS. Where are they now?
They are out there. You just have to find them. It may take some research, but no one is going to come knocking on your door and hand it to you.

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Originally Posted by RonRyan85
Most songs unless they are
some by COUNTRY STARS are horrible!
Really? You think that men whining about trucks in nasally, little honking voices that have what life they may have had auto-tuned out of them are good songs? Don't get me started on the women country singers.

If you're talking about REAL country then you might find a few good singer songwriters. Nancy Griffith, Lyle Lovett; Iris Dement; etc.

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Originally Posted by RonRyan85
You can't undestand any
RAP stuff, no great melodies and NO TALENT.
I don't understand any RAP stuff? Thanks for clearing that up for me. I always thought I could understand it fairly well.
All it takes is the ability to step outside of my midwestern, white-bread roots. (I'm originally from Missouri, but I'm in Memphis now.) Same for blues and soul.

That's the beauty of music -- and art in general.

Rap is not about melody ... it's about meter and phrasing. It is Soul taken to it's extreme. Of course, there is a lot of BAD rap out there.

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Originally Posted by RonRyan85
The one cool thing
is the invention of MP3 music and APPLE'S iPOD ! ITUNES has
sold a BILLION tunes on the internet for 99 cents a tune and
most record shops that sold CDs for $16 a disc are closed up
or about to close.
Well, I agree with you there but not for the same reason. I do think that iTunes is a pretty cool model to work on, but they only carry what's popular. They also promote the watering down of music until every singer, every song, every band sounds just like the one before -- especially pop music; which is what you were referring to with the whole Elvis thing. I know it's hard to believe but Elvis was a POP star. By today's standards he'd be considered easy listening or adult contemporary (sort of). Country music is no exception, it's all formulaic; sounding if not exactly the same from song to song then extraordinarily similar.

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Originally Posted by RonRyan85
Sure there are exceptions to every thing:
Some guys and gals have talent with songs that sound good but
they are few and hard to find.
Not true if you stop looking to iTunes and go to a boutique music store that caters to the style of music you enjoy most. And I don't mean chain stores. Find the place where all your Elvis fans shop at. It could be online.

I agree that CD's should not cost more than $12 especially from an established act. If us indie guys can sell CD's for $10 then so can everyone else. You have to support the music in some way. The best way to do it is by BUYING DIRECTLY FROM THE ARTIST when you can. If your favorite (living) singer can't pay the bills then they will a) cease to be alive or b) they will cease to write songs.
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