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Old 08-18-2006, 06:26 AM   #380 (permalink)
balderdash111
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Originally Posted by fastom
Great stuff on that link. Though it appears some of it doesn't help the official story too much.

This is a great story of escape. It details the damage to the building very near the plane impact. The hooey about heat melting the steel sure seems like BS when the survivors are right there walking out. Also he mentions an explosion as his coworker is leaving just as the tower falls. Explain that.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/wtc/above.html
Ugh.... I hate to get back into this, and yet the damn thing keeps drawing me in....

Melting steal - I am not sure what you are getting at here. You have seen the images, haven't you? There quite clearly was something melting in those buildings, and it was pouring out the side. The fact that someone was able to use the evacuation stairwells to get past that floor prooves nothing at all.

Did you consider the possibility that the stairs were in a different part of the building? Did you consider that stairwells are designed to insulate people from the fire on the floor?

Is part of your theory that the whole fire was staged? Even willravel will concede - I think - that it was extremely hot on those floors. I thought the argument was that it just wasn't hot enough?

(Of course, as has been pointed out many times before, nobody is saying that the supporting steel actually melted - I don't know what the stuff pouring out the side was, but it wasn't that. Rather, it was heated until it lost so much strength that it was no longer able to support the loads it was carrying.

Again, though, I don't think anyone is saying there was uniform heating throughout the floors where the collapse began. I suppose it is possible for enough of the support to be weakened in one part of the floor to cause the whole thing to collapse. If that is true, then it is entirely possible that this person to be able to get down through the less-hot areas, isn't it?)

Doesn't the fact that so few people were able to escape from floors above the impact strongly suggest that most were unable to get past the floors that were hit?


Explosion on the ground floor - Again, not sure what you are getting at. It's not clear from the man's story how closely the explosion he saw preceded the collapse of the building. Logic suggests there was some time lag, or he would have been crushed by the building when it fell. Are you suggesting that it was some sort of failed or premature demolition explosion?

Even those who argue for the demolition charges theory (which I think is preposterous for many of the reasons cited by others) don't, to my knowledge, suggest the charges were placed at the bottom of the building.

So, fastom, I can't explain the explosion, but I am not sure what you think it proves.
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