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Old 05-27-2003, 03:37 PM   #17 (permalink)
archer2371
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Originally posted by Kadath
Maybe we should learn the lesson and just push for a split politics board. We can all agree, and they can all agree, and no one will learn anything. Spring forth, burly protectors of the right, and save your leader's reputation!
If you insist.....
Well, I guess I can't really defend the fact that Haliburton has or hasn't done some very corrupt things in the business world (because they have), and I hate it when a corporation does something like this, because I believe in the old saying of "There are no business ethics, just ethics." Which basically says that if you're going to run a business, do it truthfully, take care of your customers, and your employees. Kadath, I completely agree with you, through debate, we each learn something, and by agreeing and collecting together in groups, we atrophy as a society and as a people. However, it must be noted that Haliburton could have been stopped cold before the Bush Administration has been in place, (i.e. Clinton, Bush, and Reagan) and this corporation must be stopped or reformed, I'm thoroughly surprised that after getting ripped off so many times that the U.S. Government and the U.S. Military has allowed that corporation to remain standing. So it's not completely Bush's fault, nor is it completely Cheney's fault, it's the repeated fault of a government that has tended to look the other way whenever something like that happens. If the people find that Bush, Cheney, or any of the government has done something illegal, put 'em on trial, impeach them, whatever, if they have as much proof as they did with Nixon to say that Bush was using his power to advance his agenda and no one else's by all means I say he should step down, be impeached, whatever. I, one of the most conservative people on this TF project, some of you have seen my posts, agree with the most of you here, if someone does something illegal, they must be punished, and not let off, it has to apply to everybody or the decencies of society are all for naught. I'm for big business, but I am for honest big business, I'm pro-life, but by all means, if the birth is the result of rape or will endager the mother's life, it's reasonable to allow the woman to choose to have an abortion, I don't agree with the Dixie Chicks, but that's their opinion, and then there's mine, mine isn't on a public stage, theirs is, and most of their fanbase are conservative country listeners, they should have realized that there were going to be reprecussions to a comment such as that. I am open minded, put some facts infront of me that refute my position, and I will most likely change my viewpoint or concede a few things. I guess I didn't "defend" Dubya like you thought I would, but hey, I will say that I like the guy, I will say that I respect him, and I will say that I will exercise my right to vote for him in 2004, but hey, that's my opinion and I agree with him on a lot of issues and topics, if there were another candidate that came out that I believed in more, or I thought had a better stance on the issues, then I'd vote for him instead. I thoroughly believed that Alan Keyes was the best guy for the Republican Presidential Candidacy back in 2000. However, by election, Bush got the call and I supported him and I will continue to support him.
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