Originally Posted by Dane Bramage

i'm afraid once again, you are not taking his feelings into consideration. perhaps he has absolutely no self esteem. perhaps he is so co-dependant that he cannot bear to be alone. perhaps he is one of those people that are not happy unless they are miserable. all of these things could contribute to him not leaving you. again, just because he doesn't leave you doesn't mean he enjoys it.

never once in this entire discussion have you ever said that yes you have discussed this with him and he is okay with it. therefore it is not, cannot be, consensual. by the very dictionary definition of the word, it is not consensual. period.

but, since you don't like the domestic violence analogy, then take out the violent aspect. think about all the disfunctional relationships that you know. all the people in your life that hate the people they are with. why are they still with them?

sorry, foxylucy... i don't think i'm the one being shamed here.