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Originally Posted by roachboy
please explain what is now going on in this thread.
is this a mod "message" that folk who do not think that politics is a consumer question are not welcome here?
or is the "message" that the level of discourse should be ratcheted down?
or is the "message" that what i mentioned in the "what happened" thread--that the implication of much of what was being said about politics is that there is space for everyone except people like me here, now being made into an official position?
i await your response.
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Well, I'm not a mod, but I know what
I meant when I said the things I did in the "What Happened to TFP?" thread. I suggested that the regulars in here try and leave a little more room for other modes of discourse. Your last two examples of possible messages from the mods exemplify the problematic aspects of Politics - the reason why so many others find it hostile in here. You set it up as if there can only be two choices: you have to either
lower yourself to our disdainful mediocrity (we who find it a little intimidating to know that any response we get from a post in here will be a somewhat harsh response, whether in agreement or otherwise), or this space is officially not for roachboy (...because he is too special by refusing to lower himself here by treating the others who may be interested in posting here for the first time as people who perhaps could know better instead of as people who SHOULD know better?). If the speculation in my last parenthesis is inaccurate, I really hope you will help me to understand better. So far, all I have heard from you is a lot of bristling at the mention of letting people who may not be as good at defending their positions to participate enough to grow a little; and then, almost in alternating sentences, painting the picture of an unwelcome roachboy if that must be the case.
I am telling you that I don't see why it is so hard to let some people make a few more ill-supported posts in here to get their bearings or just to express something about which they KNOW (i.e. ngdawg and NJ) without getting a new asshole ripped by the whole Politics circus? I am not saying that you, roachboy alone, are the entire Politics circus and that you, roachboy alone, make this environment hostile. Please do not take it that way. I am asking you to tell me why it has to be mutually exlusive that Politics have space for the current regulars (or simply yourself, if you prefer that question)
and newcomers who don't know about or have some trouble adhering strictly to the rules on their first few go-arounds?