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so let's think for a moment, shall we?
let's assume for a moment that this cretin thread is worth taking seriously.
at this point, thinking about this thread means that we have to consider what analog and cyn imagine themselves to be doing by legitimating it--analog by turning it into some act of civil disobedience (which is really pretty funny--it is the only laugh i have had from the thread so far)--and cyn by trying to "call me out" to "walk the walk"--cliches that really have no meaning in a thread such as this one----and which are close to insulting in that they imply that there has been nothing interesting from me in politics up to now.
but whatever, i expect little from someone whose primary complaint in politics up to now is that he had to read too much when host posts.
it is tedious to speculate about such matters, but i noticed that yesterday this thread disappeared for a while--i assume there was some discussion about how to deal with it, and that the two mod posts above indicate something like a decision has been taken and that both posts above are mod posts, not posts made by the individuals concerning their own views who happen also to be mods.
but perhaps analog and cyn would care to confirm this before we keep going?
maybe not--it is not that important to me.
none of this is that important to me.
carno has a series of associations with politics that he has presented, in various forms that others would have been challenged for having done--in gd discussions, in the "what happened to tfp" thread etc. those associations are close to the complaints i have seen from analog in the past, and presumably they correspond to cyn's views as well. they have nothing really to do with how things have been happening in politics over the past months, during which the character of discussion here has changed for the better--but attitudes are funny and seem to require no real-time data. apparently there are some who think that this should be true in all arenas. that politics should be a matter of attitude or a priori opinion and that information is secondary at best--so that it is an imposition when information is posted because the expectation is generated that you shoudl read it, which is a second imposition. debates then happen around that information--a third imposition. and so it goes.
carno's basic complaint was that political threads were being posted in other forums. i pointed out to him that this was no big deal in itself and was probably a good thing in that folk who did not generally participate inthis forum were able to address questions in other places. in response, this thread.
let's consider the logic, such as it is, that can be derived from the content of carno's snippy post--which would have been censured had it originated from other members---for example, if i had done something like this, i doubt seriously that either cyn or analog would have defended it.
but i assume that there is a 3-d friendship between him and analog and cyn such that what he does here is not required to conform to the same rules as are binding on everyone else, and now both cyn and analog have made carno's special status official.
so there are two sets of rules now.
this is a new development.
the logic of carno's snippy semi-literate op is not only that carno does not like politics, but further that he sees in politics something of a debased form of consumer activity. like which snack food to eat. what is there to say about this notion that politics is a variant of consumerism?
that you can buy shit=that you are free?
that you can "think" about commodities=that you can think about politics?
please explain what is now going on in this thread.
is this a mod "message" that folk who do not think that politics is a consumer question are not welcome here?
or is the "message" that the level of discourse should be ratcheted down?
or is the "message" that what i mentioned in the "what happened" thread--that the implication of much of what was being said about politics is that there is space for everyone except people like me here, now being made into an official position?
i await your response.
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a gramophone its corrugated trumpet silver handle
spinning dog. such faithfulness it hear
it make you sick.
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