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Originally Posted by powerclown
Ask King Hussein of Jordan why he carried out Black September, and kicked Arafat out of Jordan.
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Ask the League of Nations. The Palestine Mandate was an explicit document regarding Britain's responsibilities and powers of administration in Palestine including "secur[ing] the establishment of the Jewish national home", and "safeguarding the civil and religious rights of all the inhabitants of Palestine".
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His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
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So Israel got their state (without the consent of the indegenous former Ottoman population, known as the Palestinians). The real question is: why did the Uk have the authority to remove Palestinians (economically) from their land? Why didn't the Jewish settlers follow existing law, which included that ownership of land and trees on that land were very much different (when purchasing land in the area now known as Israel, you were not purchasing the trees. That's the way it had worked for hundreds of years.)? Why was the immigraation into Palestine allowed to increase so drasticly while racism in Eurpope was on the rise? The US was allowing Jewish people to immigrate at the time. There were other, safer options for immigrints. The WWII happened. Horrible things were done to the Jews by the facists in Europe, as we all know. The UN decided to try and make the establishment of the Israeli state official, and the Arabs in Palestine said no. What happened next? Israel was formed and no arab state was established. Arabs were expected to live peacefully in an Israeli state, and obey Jewish laws, despite the fact that they had their own government and laws preceding outside interference.
The PLO was formed in order to return the region to Palestinian rule, and destroy the Israeli government.
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Originally Posted by powerclown
So it'll be ok if/when hezbollah ignores the UN, but not ok for Israel to defend itself? Why is this?
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Have you ever seen the Wicker Man? Your strawman is even bigger. I obviously never said that it was okay if the Hezbollah ignored the UN. I am recognizing the fact that they probably won't recognize the UN ruling, and will continue to fight. For the millionth time, I do not support the Hezbollah. I think that they are doing tremendous harm to not only Israel, but Lebanon and Palestine. Just because I'm not an apologist fo the Jewsih people does not mean that I am always against them.
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Originally Posted by powerclown
Yeah, maybe I overreacted, according to the rules of TFP.
I stand by what I said.
If the mods choose to act, I would hope they base their decision on how they judge it among themselves, and not be swayed by a 3rd party/nonmoderator's personal 2 cents.
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You admit that you broke the rules as if to suggest that you think that makes it okay. You can stand by what you said all you want, but it is still a breach of the rules, which are a contract we all agree on in order to use TFP. If you break the rules of TFP, you invite punitive measures. Why would you do that? Just to try and piss off roachboy? Is it really worth it to you?
If the mods choose to act, it will be based on a number of things, including the input of other members, like myself. The only one that would be to blame for any hypothetical punishment from the mods would be yourself.