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Originally Posted by level five
seems like you are talking out of both sides of your mouth from just this. on one hand, you disagree with the contention that children don't have the same rights as their parents - apparently relating to being on campus - and then you said a student doesn't have the same civil rights on campus when it comes to searching as they would off campus.
i'm not trying to start something, i just don't understand what appears to be contradictory points of view. if i'm missing something i'm certainly open to seeing the error of my ways.
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kids don't have the same civil rights as adults. in many cases they do, but depending on the situation, there are lots of times even adults don't have their rights. when at work, company rules usually override civil liberties. if you're at school, school rules do. but if your car is not on campus, it seems like there would be no basis for the school to search his car, while on campus random (or not so random) search may be quite legit.
part of why the statements you quoted might seem contradictory is because one is talking about the kid from the article wearing the "disruptive" shirt, the other about car searches by the school, both on- and off-campus. one is a free speech issue, the other isn't. i think you may be comparing apples to oranges and that's where the contradiction comes from.