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Originally Posted by Infinite_Loser
I'm not really into euphemisms, so let's just call pro-choice what it is-- Murder of the unborn. Something strikes me as odd, though. When a woman has an abortion during her first trimester, no one considers what she just did murder, but if someone kills a pregnant woman who's in their first trimester, then that person can be charged with the murder of an unborn child. Well, I'm not the smartest person in the world, but isn't that a bit contradictory? Murder is murder, no matter who does it.
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the reason someone can be charged with murder of the unborn when they kill a pregnant woman is because "pro-life" politicians pushed that law through in certain states (i'm not sure if there's a federal law about it). i'm curious though... how can you murder something that isn't born? oh yeah, btw, i'm not into euphamisms, so lets call pro-life what it really is... gender based slavery.
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Anyway, I scoff at the "It's my body, so I'll do what I want!" notion because, unless there's been some sort of biological shift in women which I'm not aware of, they're not asexual and can't make a baby on their own. Since a woman isn't 100% responsible for making a baby, she shouldn't have 100% of the decision regarding abortion. A man should have some sort of say so since he's equally as responsible for making a baby as a woman is.
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i scoff at the "it's a living thing and therefore you shouldn't be able to do what it wants with you, even if you don't want it in you" notion, because, unless there's been some sort of biological shift in women, they still have to house the fetus, feed the fetus, and have complications due to the presence of the fetus. since a man doesn't have to do 99% of the work in the creation of a baby, why should he have the right to have more than 1% of a say in what happens to it?
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If a woman wants an abortion and the father doesn't, then the father should be able to prevent the woman from having an abortion but, in doing so, he assumes all responsibilities for the child and absolves the mother of any type of responsibility.
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if a woman wants an abortion and the father doesn't, then the father should have found out her plans to deal with an unexpected pregnancy before unzipping his pants. if he really wants a kid and she doesn't, he can adopt.
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If both a woman and a man want to have an abortion because they're not ready to be parents well... To that I say "Tough luck!". Either use protection or don't have sex.
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if both a woman and a man want to have an abortion because they're not ready to be parents well... to that i say "have an abortion!" just make sure you still use protection to make abortion as a last resort if the other methods fail.
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Only in instances of rape will I agree to abortions. Too bad the majority of abortions in America don't occur because of rape... For the most part abortions are just leading to an increase in irresponsible behaviour.
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in all instances i agree to abortion. too bad the majority of people who shouldn't be having kids and don't want them don't take advantage of the choices available to them and have the child anyways. for the most part, lack of people having abortions are just leading to an increase in irresponsible people raising children irresponsibly.
[That's my $.02.[/quote]
we're up to $0.04.
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Edit: I was driving to Taco Bell and I saw this billboard on the road. I don't think that any of us here would have wanted to be aborted, so is it too much to assume that-- If a fetus could talk-- That they wouldn't want to be aborted either? Meh... That's a bit of a stretch, but it's just something to think about.
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i think that if i'd have been aborted, i wouldn't have cared. in fact, i think you could have probably murdered me anytime up to about the age of 3 and i probalby wouldn't have cared too much. sure, i might've been scared if i knew it was going to happen, but i don't think we have the cognitive abilities until sometime around 3 or 4 years to really have any real grasp of life and death and what it is to die or fear death.