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Originally Posted by Ustwo
During the cold war, when nuclear war was a real possibility and the world had The Sword of Damocles over our heads the U.S. was often criticized for supporting governments/groups with poor human rights records if those governments/groups were somehow valuable in stopping the spread of communism or who’s cooperation was a strategic advantage against the USSR.
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That's one interpretation. I have the advantage/disadvantage to have missed a grea deal of the cold war due to my date of birth. I am disadvantaged in that I wasn't there, but I am advantaged as I was not bombarded with propoganda. Democracy vs. communism wasn't good vs. evil. We were both assholes in a pissing contest that costed many lives over the course of a few decades. Every time the US or the USSR supported human right's violators or violations, we became the bad guy. We both acted like children fighting over the last cookie, and it was detrimentla to our world. There are no excuses to be made for or from either side. But I digress, what does this have to do with the 'Pallywood' phenomenon or the videos or articles linked?
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
When I see members of the left in strong support of governments and groups who have horrible human rights records in both how they govern their own people and how they treat others, be it Saddam's Iraq, or Hezbollah, I have to wonder, where is the strategic advantage to the left? Do they support terrorists because there is some advantage to global socialism?
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No one supported Saddam here. I don't think there are even many supporting Hezbollah. You are falling victim to black and white thinking. It is entirely possible to condemn both sides in a fight. In my humble opinion, Israel is wrong and Hezbollah is wrong. In that last sentence, did I take a side? Of course not. To suggest anyone in here 'supports terrorism' is blatent trolling, and a straw man to boot. Again, what does this have to do with the supposedly fake Palestinian videos?
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
There has to be a bigger reason out there, an explanation. How can almost no one on the left support a nation with rights for women, gays, and minorities, over people who deny rights for all three groups. Is it simply because the US supports Israel and supplies their military? Is their support of what amounts to barbarians by 20th century mind sets (though they are quite enlightened for the 8th century) just a natural extension of their vilification of all things American, and especially all things American under Bush?
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If I open a door for a woman, out of respect, then I shoot a man walking down the street, is the crime of the shooting negated because I am respectful to women? Nope. A crime is a crime. A wrong is a wrong. I am glad that Israel has chosen to become more liberal in their equal treatment of all people, but they do still kill arabs. That fact isn't changed by equality.
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Originally Posted by Ustwo
I really do [wish] I had an answer to this question, because if I did, I think I'd understand the motivation of a socialist better.
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If you'd like to start a thread about socialism, or liberalism, or communism, or terrorism, or any other kind of -sim, I'll meet you there. You started this thread. Out of respect to yourself and those who have posted in here, maybe we should stay on topic.