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Old 08-08-2006, 09:44 AM   #10 (permalink)
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as it stands, i find the op incoherent in that it asks questions that refer to matters of principle that are neither settled nor obvious.

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you would think, for example, that the question about hezbollah's "assimilation" after the conflict would necessarily involve the particularlities of lebanese law and political structures, wouldn't you? unless the op is really asking you to evaluate the questions based on some vague sense of the legal situation drawn mostly from your impressions of american law, as if that law was a kind of universal model--which it self-evidently is not.
Actually, I think that powerclown is just asking for an opinion.
In the response that I wrote I decided to look at it from a western democratic view. I specifically stated that I was talking about
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democracies within which a lot of us live
In your response you can come at it from a different point of view.

We are talking about opinions here.


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what is hezbollah ayway? the op implicitly situates it as some kind of alien body within lebanon--it isnt.
Actually, I did not see it that way at all. After having read the title, having read previous posts from powerclown, I actually the OP to be much different whe I originally clicked on the link.

powerclown says things like "further incorporated" and "greater role". To me these indicate that powerclown is stating that they are a part of Lebanese government and day to day life.

I also found the questions about whether one feels that they should not be a part of Lebanese every day life to be very fair and unpointed. powerclown even leaves us with the question of whether they should be part of Lebanese politics but in a lesser role.

I guess how each of us read things is different. Just like our opinions are.

I just think that powerclow, in this thread, with these questions, was looking to see what peoples opinions are about Hizballah and their role in Lebanese politics and everyday life.

But like I said, the article that you introduced brings up a lot of discussion points. To discuss the article specifics would take us way of track of the point of the thread like what happens in alot of the other threads on this board.

I don't want to be presumptive (is that even a word) but can we say that based on the article your opinion is that Hizballah plays a crucial and important role in Lebanese politics and daily life?

Is that a fair assesment?
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