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Old 07-30-2006, 03:13 AM   #240 (permalink)
dlish
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Originally Posted by Mobo123

My point is simply this: Survival. Period. End of story. Israel is surrounded by a sea of enemies. Thankfully, they have peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan. As cruel as it seems and IS, Israel will do what they feel they must to survive in a world that wishes Israel doesnt exist.

ok..israel a right to do what they MUST..not what they 'feel'. and what they 'must' do has to be within the confines of international law. the indiscriminate levelling of buildings and killing of innocent civilians only furthers the hatred against israel by those that may have been neutral. it is only natural that those that the IDF kills become sworn enemies of the state



and since we are sticking to current facts, remember, Israel didnt start this conflict. There wouldnt be a war had Hezbollah not kidnapped those soldiers, whom they still havent repatriated.


there have been kidnappings left right and centre on both sides. lets not kid ourselves eh? there are plenty of hisbollah leaders in israeli jails that have been taken by israel in military oprations from within lebanese borders, and the same can be said about hizbollah taking israeli prisoners. so to say that this is all about two soldiers is utter crap. had these two soldiers been killed with the rest of the convoy they were with, there would have been little retribution the likes of what we have seen lately.





Israel is going anywhere, and that's what drives the extremists crazy. The average arab person just wants to live, feed their kids and lead a normal life. But, as i said before, they have let their countries be hijacked by these 'organisations' that seek to destroy not just Israel but their own country. When, by god, or Allah, will they realise that?

see..most lebanese are sick of war. as you'd know they are still recovering from war. so to 'rock the boat' so to speak and plummet the country back another 50 years is ok by some in the west. but we realllly dont need that now. within 3 weeks we have taken lebanon back 20 years now.




If you could think of a way to negotiate a lasting and REAL peace between Israel and all it's neighbors, including that maniac in Iran, I will personally nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize.

ill hold you to it...

On a side note, you, being muslim and me, jewish, both must laugh at these christian fundamentalists who support Israel to the end of the world. Does anybody actually believe fundamentalist christians give a damm about the jews? Not for a second. Their rationale is that by keeping the jews in charge of Jerusalem, Muslims wont come in and bar Christians from visiting the birthplace of jesus. F.C's are scared to death that if Muslims take over control of Jersulem, they will stand by their pledge that ONLY muslims will be allowed in. That's the sole and only reason F.C's support Israel. It's certainly not out of love or care for the jews.


i agree with you there, but the FC's have a lot of motives. i wish it was only for that reason. the USA was the first country to recognise israel and has done so through countless UN resolutions which it vehemently vetos time and time again. actually, i dont laugh though.. i yearn the day that america stands up for justice (regardless of which side) and not just for its allies. cos only that day will it earn the respect of the rest of the world, including all muslim and arab nations.





My opinion? Lebanon is a total clusterfuck. The christians hate the muslims, the muslims hate the christians and everybody hates the jews.


clusterfuck..isnt that abayas word??? hehe.. i'd have to disagree iwth you there also. though there are areas that are exclusively muslim and others that are exclusively christian in lebanon, the level of hatred that you speak of hasnt been seen since the days of the civil war. war does strange things to ppl. i have been there and did not see this hatred. sure, there would be extremist elements, but the general population just wants to get by. living here in australia i have many lebanese muslim and lebanese christian friends. there is no hatred, nor anomosity . maybe its cos we are so far away.. maybe your lebanese christian forum poster has just been headfucked by the civil war....
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p.s. need i send you my details for the nobel prize?
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