dlishsguy, i agree with you on the certain facts you raised. The inquisition was indeed persecuted aganst ANY non-catholic religion. That obviously includes muslims. I cant even speculate how many muslims were burned at the stake because they refused to renounce their solemm right to practice their religion of their own choosing.
But regarding my statement: My point is not to simply re-hash history and make people feel sorry for the jews. First and last, nobody is ever going to feel sorry for the jews. The German PM's word's carry as much weight as a fart in the wind. (sorry for the crude analogy).
I obviously missed that which you read, which stated that Israel has the right to run roughshod through Lebanon because of the horrible historical treatment of the jews.
My point is simply this: Survival. Period. End of story. Israel is surrounded by a sea of enemies. Thankfully, they have peace treaties with Egypt and Jordan. As cruel as it seems and IS, Israel will do what they feel they must to survive in a world that wishes Israel doesnt exist.
and since we are sticking to current facts, remember, Israel didnt start this conflict. There wouldnt be a war had Hezbollah not kidnapped those soldiers, whom they still havent repatriated.
Had the soldiers not have been kidnapped, Israel would just be going through their normal daily routines. There would be an occasional rocket or three every day fired into Israel, just like every single country on this planet expects to happen daily in their own country; There would continue to be suicide bombers in pizza parlors and bars, shreddng and killing innocent civilians, just like every single country in the world expects to happen in their own country and so forth and so forth.
My point is that Israel isnt just a regular, everyday country. It is, for lack of a different or more apt term,
chosento suffer these atrocities. and why? 5000 years of hatred, jealousy, extremism, sectarianisms, fundamentalism, and 'ism' after 'ism' you can think of.
Israel is going
anywhere, and that's what drives the extremists crazy. The average arab person just wants to live, feed their kids and lead a normal life. But, as i said before, they have let their countries be hijacked by these 'organisations' that seek to destroy not just Israel but their own country. When, by god, or Allah, will they realise that?
If you could think of a way to negotiate a lasting and
REAL peace between Israel and all it's neighbors, including that maniac in Iran, I will personally nominate you for the Nobel Peace Prize.
On a side note, you, being muslim and me, jewish, both must laugh at these christian fundamentalists who support Israel to the end of the world. Does anybody actually believe fundamentalist christians give a damm about the jews? Not for a second. Their rationale is that by keeping the jews in charge of Jerusalem, Muslims wont come in and bar Christians from visiting the birthplace of jesus. F.C's are scared to death that if Muslims take over control of Jersulem, they will stand by their pledge that ONLY muslims will be allowed in. That's the sole and only reason F.C's support Israel. It's certainly not out of love or care for the jews.
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This is a post I found from a member of a different board I am part of. He is lebanese christian and has an interesting perspective. I wont try to correct his english because he makes his points perfectly.
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ok lemme try to break this down to you.. because noone here really knows whats going on in lebanon cause non of u lived or live their... well at least non that are speaking so..
anyway, lebanon IS capable of taking out hizballah.sure, hizbalah are very strong now, just as they were 20 years ago.
now, what i mean by are capable is this
Lebanon has its own militias. Many of them, but there is only 1 extremely powerful militia. its called the uwait.
i was part of the uwait 20 years ago, and we faught against hizbllah and themuslim population to keep our country. the uwait is extremely strong, it consists of 32 groups of 150-250 men. All of us who are in the uwait.. some call it mgaweer are skilled with almost every weapon, and we get our weapons from america
now 20 years ago we had to fight of the muslim population and we suceeded, we ended the war pretty much, driving them to the south and west.. Now we can do it again, the uwait is still a very strong militia, but its all behind the lebanese president, and other people in power. See they dont want to fight off hizballah, they are the only reason that they are in power and they want to stay that way..
they are also scared for their life, because if they give the militia the go, yhe will be killed
so the bottom line is.. lebanon is capable of getting hizballah out, but dont want them out........ at least the people in power
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He also said this about the relationship between the lebanese christians and muslims:
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yes they have hated each other... heck the land is split into sections
for eample, if any christian was to go to dahye he would be killed. and if any muslim would go to deir el qamar he would also be killed.. but most other parts muslims and chrisitan leave together peacfully, like in beirut.
most arab muslims and chrisitians have always hated each other, and always will, but that doesnt mean the whole country should suffer for hizballah mistake..
My opinion? Lebanon is a total clusterfuck.
The christians hate the muslims, the muslims hate the christians and everybody hates the jews.
