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Old 07-29-2006, 09:30 AM   #234 (permalink)
Mobo123
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roachboy, i must ask. Are you jewish? Because if you arent, you dont, and absolutely cannot, understand how jews feel about war and how important Israel's survival is to the deepest part of the soul of every single jew.

I watched the video. Interesting. I found it upsetting to witness the misery the lebanese are going through. I also agree that two wrongs dont make a right.

However, all the videos in the world cannot describe and understand the jewish psyche and what it is to be jewish. Unless you are one, you can never understand what it feels like and what it is to be jewish to understand how jews truly believe that war is truly abhorrent.

Dont you believe that the killing of civilians is a sin and a crime? I agree it is.

However, when these groups hide among the civilians, what choice is there but to go where the militants and the arms caches are? Hezbollah is an extremely cynical and hypocritical group. They claim Israel is purposely murdering innocents. Israel has dropped thousands and thousands of leaflets begging the innocents to leave. Unfortunately, there is no place for these people to go.

Jews also know, implicitly, that the entire world hates the jews. Just look through history. From the inquisition in spain, to the pogroms throughout Europe, to the holocaust, the 1948 fight for independance, the six day war, etc etc etc. We know that and accept that. Why do you think Israel ignores the UN? Every single resolution that is submitted re" the middle east condemms Israel. So what else is new?

But most important, non-jews can never understand how important it is to be jewish and live free, free in our own country, free from attacks, free from being kicked around, free from pogroms, from being persecuted, murdered and massacred for 5,000 years.

Israel, just like the US, will lash out like the most violent beast there is to protect it's very survival. and that's what this is about. Survival. It's not about conquest, lebensraum or any other political bullshit term. It's survival. Period.

The arabs dont give a shit about their own people. If they did, their 'army's' woudnt hide among women and children for their own protection.

I dont believe that you can ever fully appreciate that. No criticism of you.

It's just that you've never lost family in the holocaust. I have. My entire family consists on one cousin living in Tel Aviv plus my parents and one brother. That's it. Everybody else was murdered in the camps.

A very cruel irony of this fact is that when i went for my physical exam. My doctor asked questions about family history (diabetes, etc etc). So I asked my mother. She said she didnt know because none of our family lived long enough to develop any of those diseases.

Once you understand that, then maybe, you could understand why Israel is doing what it is doing.

Last, the final tradegy is that there will be no winners after this episode winds down. The arabs will continue to hate the jews as fierce as ever. The world will continue to despise Israel despite whatever false words they utter in support of Israel.

Did you happen to catch the german PM, Merkel, come out in support of Israel? That made me laugh because at the same time, a neo-nazi group in Bavaria is parading around, supporting the arabs while claiming that Israel is the new hitler. That was amusing in a very sick sense.

So, this war will solve nothing, will prove nothing and will benefit nobody. It's a total clusterfuck.

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