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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
this argument is plainly stupid.
First, a nuke would obviously destroy YOU as well as ME and anyone else in the area, therefore it is not a weapon of defense, it's a weapon of mass destruction.
Second, the insanity of some individual wanting to own a nuke for self defense OR defense against the government is patently absurd because it would afford neither.
Third, the argument that the people can no longer preserve a freedom against their government with nukes is ludicrous because a government would have to have popular support to fight an uprising. Using a nuke on their own soil, against their own people, would forever ruin even the slightest chance of such a prospect.
comparing ownership of nuclear weapons to automatic weapons is not even close to the same concept and to try to say that it is, shows you so far removed from reality that it would be useless to attempt to show you the wrongness of your argument. you would never agree because your hatred of your fellow citizen overrides any desire to think logically.
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First, a nuke would not necessarily have to be used irresponsibly. How often have you tried to disprove the characterization that gun owners are irresponsible? How often have you said that people can be responsible with guns, and even that the act of owning a gun is in and of itself responsible?
Well, if people were properly trained to use nuclear weapons, then they would not kill everyone and themselves. They would use it when it was necessary.
Second, nuclear weapons are only expensive because they aren't mass produced (like handguns, for example). If mass produced, nuclear weapons would become mush less expensive.
Third, I'm not sure what you are saying in your third point. I *think* you are saying that nuclear weapons in the hands of civilians against an oppressive government would be self defeating. I agree, somewhat, but you do not own a gun mearly for defence against the government, right? You owna gun to defend your family from intruders, or yourself from a mugger? There are many situations that weapons are suited for.
I think one of the big problems is this:
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Originally Posted by dksuddeth
this argument is plainly stupid.
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dkksuddeth, we all know that you are a very serious gun rights advocate here in the community. We can all appreciate that you are passionate about the right to bear arms. We also are beginning to find out that you can become very mean spirited when you are in discussions about this topic. You get mad because you think people are making light of your discussion. While I'm fine with you getting mad, I don't feel like your response is necessary or constructive. You could have posted your last post and gotten your point across without making that statement. Continue to build up the discussion. These threads don't have to end up being little wars.