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Old 07-26-2006, 06:30 AM   #11 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
So then the answer is to get rid of the rule of law when it comes to guns?
There are laws make murder a crime so tell me what sense does it make to make yet another law that criminalizes the use of a firearm in the commission of murder? Idiot politicians will tell you it is so they can tack on more prison time, which would be moronic except some more 'progressive' politicians and judges thought that murderers should be given a break, therefore they made mandatory sentence requirements instead of sending the murdering thug to the death chamber or to prison for life without possibility of parole.

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Originally Posted by The_Jazz
Sorry, I can't accept that. I'm all for people who are responsible enough to use guns safely and correctly having them, but there has to be some sort of control in place. There was no such thing as a repeating rifle (or even a rifle that didn't require great effort to screw the slug down the barrel) or a revolver, and I don't think that they ever envisioned vast amounts of firepower in the hands of the average joe. Remember that they didn't even trust the average joe with the right to vote in the original version of the Constitution.
The framers of the constitution didn't CARE about what technology would be developed in the future. They CARED about the people keeping power, not a government taking over and becoming the new overlord. Benjamin Franklin used his own money and bought a cannon for the PEOPLE in a small town in South Carolina so they could have firepower equal to the british army.

Because of a failing political and judicial system we have people who don't care about the rights of others NOT being kept in prison for life, but being let out time and time again. IF we forced the system to change then we'd have respectable people with automatic weapons as neighbors without having to fear that they would go on killing rampages.

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Originally Posted by shakran
We said stricter *enforcement* of the laws. So if someone has a gun they're not supposed to have, or does something with the gun they're not supposed to do, they go to jail where they can't hurt society with guns anymore.
Agreed, except for the part about guns people aren't supposed to have. Why should *I* be prohibited from owning a machine gun if I'm a average law-abiding american?
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Last edited by dksuddeth; 07-26-2006 at 06:36 AM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
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