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Old 07-24-2006, 07:49 PM   #4 (permalink)
dksuddeth
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Originally Posted by shakran
Think before you write. It'll go better for you
I rarely write without thinking, thank you. If you think what I write is done without thinking, maybe it's YOUR thinking that you need to look at.

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Originally Posted by shakran
The cops have to say that. If they encourage people to pull their guns at the first hint of trouble, then the first time some jackass does so and shoots an innocent person, the cops will get sued. They might not lose the lawsuit, but the bad publicity alone will not be good for the police.
No, the cops DON'T have to say that. They also don't have to encourage people to draw at the first sign of trouble, however, I think a man running after someone while holding a butcher knife is a damn fine indicator of being past the first sign of trouble, wouldn't you agree? Hundreds of innocent people are killed every month, so far the courts have all sided that the cops are blameless, save one court in chicago.


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Originally Posted by shakran
Let's look at this another way. THis guy was very lucky. The guy with the knife didn't come after him, or throw the knife at him. The guy with the knife didn't have a friend behind the "hero" to take care of him while the original attacker kept stabbing people. . .starting with the gunman.
You crack me up. Where did this notion come from that allows you to think that a normal, decent, law abiding person is a complete bumbling fool that has no business defending himself or others but any wild, crazy, psycopathic murderer is the next best thing to superman? Please....the guy with the knife threw the knife away when he saw the gun. Not turn and run after the guy with the gun or throw the knife at him. why? because the coward didn't want to get shot. I also find it extremely disingenous that the attacker would have a friend standing guard in the parking lot, behind the one man that had a gun (how did they know that?) ready to crack his skull open so his buddy could continue slashing away.

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Originally Posted by shakran
Should he have done what he did, or left the gun in its holster? Neither one of us can say because we weren't there, we didn't see the situation, and without that firsthand knowledge we can't make the call on whether he should have done it or not.
I absolutely can say what he should have done. If he hadn't gotten his gun then the person that the attacker was chasing COULD have ended up dead. As it stands, that person remained unharmed physically because he made the right choice.




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Originally Posted by shakran
And I can give you examples of normal everyday citizens ruining people's lives USING A GUN!!!!!!! because they don't know what the hell they're doing. Little anecdotes like this are cute, but they don't prove anything.
you can give examples of anything, they still don't prove that guns cause crime nor would they prove that guns ONLY destroy lives. Do some people have zero clues about how to handle a gun? Absolutely and thats their own fault. People need to take responsibility for their own lives and that of their families and learn how to deal with guns.
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