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Originally Posted by Nirvana
i don't think either one of us or anyone here for that matter wants innocent people to be killed. i've always thought that is both sides were to just agree to at least a 6 month non-violence period to show that they are series, maybe to a certain degree that would lower some supiciopns of both populations and bring talks forward. however, i just dont think its going to go any farther until that violence does stop and both sides loudly and boldly say "we support your right to exist" and really mean it. if something to that effect ever happens, we'll just have to wait and see.
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The biggest problem I see is that if there were ever peace in the Middle East, Israel would still exist, but the various extreemist groups would not. This outcome isn't favorable to the extreemist groups, so that makes the peace process all the more difficult (trying not to oversimplify). The trick to peace in the region, in my humble opinion, would be a complete pull out of all outside forces. No more US support to Israel. No more Chinese or Russian support to Iran or Syria. No more economic support to Saudi Arabia. Most importantly: no more oil. That damn stuff seems to breed corruption.
Of course that's never going to happen...at least not in my lifetime.
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Originally Posted by Nirvana
also im starting to feel this thread has moved away the whole lebanon-israel thing but thats ok, threads grow and evolve into even more interestig discussion,
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Yeah, but at the same time, I can't help but feel like I've threadjacked more than a few times. I do want the discussion to evolve, but I don't want to disrespect the reason we clicked on the "Israel invades Lebanon, Hezbollah attacks N. Israel" link.