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Old 07-19-2006, 07:21 AM   #172 (permalink)
Kittie Rose
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The word "Homophobe" is nothing but a loaded term used to mischaracterize one side of the debate.
Oh great, I haven't heard this from conservatives time and time again.

Quite frankly, this is just plain insensitive to anyone who's suffered homophobia.

Yeah, homophobia doesn't exist. Nobody gets beaten up for being gay, nobody has to fear any form of social rejection for being gay and apparently "godhatesfags", Fred Phelps, and Pat Robertson don't exist.

You are an extremely insensitive human being.

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You, being on the other side, will always claims that my opinions are connected with some form of bigotry and will readily use the term "Homophobe" to describe my position.
I never called you a homophobe. I merely pointed out that your opinion has little to no basis in facts or logic.

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If you have no problems in throwing out the term "Homophobe", then you can expect others to throw the term "Heterophobe" back at you.
Yeah, because people get beaten to death for being straight.

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Now, with that being said... People who are against gay marriage are homophobic? Really? How did you come to that conclusion? By making biased assumptions?
I explained exactly how and it seems conveniently, like most conservatives, you ignore the part you can't deal with.

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I have two words for you-- Straw man.
Do you even know what a Straw Man is? You're making it look like homophobia doesn't exist - that's BEYOND a Straw Man and just plain delusional.

Everyone knows Ad Hominem and Straw Man. To actually understand what they mean and when they apply is a different matter.

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You know what else is horrible logic? Calling everyone who opposes gay marriage "Homophobes".
How? Being against gay marriage means you are for the institutionalised discrimination of a minority. I like how most of your argument consists of one line assertions with nothing to back them up.

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And you using the term "Homophobe" is any different than using the term "Heterophobe"? Don't be a hypocrite.
Straight people are not discriminated against by the tyrannical "Velvet Mafia", so no, it's not hypocritical. Please grow up.

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You know what I think? I think there's too much tolerance of "Homophobiaphobia" (The mischaracterization of those who oppose gay marriage).
Yeah, because straight people are actively discriminated against so it's the same thing.

So you want there to be MORE homophobia? Because that's exactly what happens when you don't oppose it.

This is beyond a "viewpoint", this is just plain abhorrant, selfish and cruel-minded.

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You are incorrect. A bigot is defined as "A person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices."
Yes, note the word "prejudice". Being against bigots isn't a prejudice - as you already KNOW what they're doing in action. A prejudice is when you have a false and destructive notion about someone. Otherwise you'd be "Prejudiced" against murderers and rapists.

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Whether or not one person's way of life and/or beliefs is intrusive on another person's way of life and/or beliefs is irrelevant.
Many Americans have problems seeing why forcing their beliefs on someone is wrong.

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By the pure definition of the word, the people using the term bigot are as bigotted as the people they label.
I already debunked that and like a good little conservative, you pull it out again since actual "proof" doesn't matter. In fact, I just debunked it again directly above, and I'm sure you'll ignore this again.

The word "bigot" wouldn't exist if your model existed - since nobody could actually use it.

Where is your actual argument? Your entire post seems to be saying that there should be less opposition towards hatred of gay people and discrimination against them, and that homophobia doesn't exist, in an extremely insensitive manner.

Why exactly should I have any decent level of respect for you if this is how you present your so called "opinions"? Please, come back with an actual argument or don't bother at all. I'm not arguing semantics with a neo-con.

Last edited by Kittie Rose; 07-19-2006 at 09:05 AM..
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